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1 | Vessels prepared for destruction? | Rom 9:22 | Reformer Joe | 70398 | ||
"It is virtually a sin for us to be wasting our time on something that has never been proven for hundreds of years when we could be such a blessing to so many that don?t even know Christ or those that think that they do and really don?t." The difficulty here is that one does not have to be done to the exclusion of the other. My missionary work (see my profile) gives me plenty of opportunity to proclaim the gospel of Christ to others, but the apostles spent significant ink (and doubtlessly many sermons) contending for doctrinal correctness among the pofessing saints. The sanctification of believers is an important purpose of God just as the justification of the unbeliever is. (Ephesians 4:11-16) I suppose I see the StudyBibleForum as primarily that: a Bible study for those who already proclaim Christ as Lord and God and Savior. While I am sure that those who are not Christians find themselves here, much as they will find themselves at a church for whatever circumstances (and therefore Matthew 5:16 and John 13:34-35 definitely apply), I think it would be mistaken to see the Forum as designed primarily for evangelism. Some people may differ in opinion with me, but I see that much more evangelism tends to get accomplished on my part after issuing the "shut down" command than when I post here. --Joe! |
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2 | Vessels prepared for destruction? | Rom 9:22 | CDBJ | 70399 | ||
Joe, I know where you stand as do all on this forum but I would like to ask you a simple question, and I don’t mean to be sarcastic. Do you claim to be smarter and know more doctrine then dear old John Calvin? If you know where I am going with this you don’t even have to oblige me with an answer we will just let it end here. CDBJ | ||||||
3 | Vessels prepared for destruction? | Rom 9:22 | Reformer Joe | 70402 | ||
"Do you claim to be smarter and know more doctrine then dear old John Calvin? If you know where I am going with this you don?t even have to oblige me with an answer we will just let it end here." I don't know where you are going with this, so I will be brave (or foolish!) enough to answer that, while I disagree with Calvin on some issues, that his training and knowledge (and character) far exceeds anything I have attained thus far. Now spring that trap, whatever it may be! :) --Joe! |
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4 | Vessels prepared for destruction? | Rom 9:22 | CDBJ | 70408 | ||
I am not saying that I disagree with you, but with all that Calvin knew and as smart as he was he was never able to convince his counter part that he was wrong or off base; so how do you suppose that those that hold to this view can intend to do it either? I learned a long time ago that it’s like fighting a loosing battle when it comes to push this issue. I guess that I will leave it up to the ones that are smarter then John Calvin and Jacobus Arminius because neither one was able to convince the other and they were both a lot smarter then I’ll ever be. Good luck Joe, and I did say luck, which I don’t believe in either! |
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5 | Vessels prepared for destruction? | Rom 9:22 | Reformer Joe | 70409 | ||
Interestingly enough, the debate really wasn't between these two men. James Arminius was only about four years old when Calvin died, so obviously there wasn't a lot of interaction between them! :) Also, it was a group of Dutch followers of the teachings of Arminius, known as the Remonstrants, who first presented their objections to the Reformed church in the Netherlands in 1610 (the year after Arminius himself died). This controversy between the followers of the two groups is what resulted in the Synod of Dort, out of which came the Canons of Dort, the first confessional document organizing some of the teaching of the Reformation into the "Five Point" format. Sorry if the history lesson bored you; I think that studying the history of God's people (and, through our mutual union with Christ, OUR people as well) gives us a greater sense of how our sovereign God has triumphed through his church in the last 2000 years, despite some very questionable characters that were in the mix... --Joe! |
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6 | Vessels prepared for destruction? | Rom 9:22 | CDBJ | 70410 | ||
I always like being board with the facts the hard part is being sharp enough to remember them for future use. Nice job with the answer Joe, well this old man has to go blow some zzzz’s, talk at you later. CDBJ |
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7 | Vessels prepared for destruction? | Rom 9:22 | Reformer Joe | 70415 | ||
"I always like being board with the facts the hard part is being sharp enough to remember them for future use." To be honest, I'd be lost without my library and the Internet handy for such matters. I have pretty good memory, but I just cram too much in to remember all the details. May God bless you today! --Joe! |
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