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1 | Free will and predestination co-exist? | Rom 8:29 | mark d seyler | 178599 | ||
Hi Edwin, That was an unexpected answer! I find you to be refreshingly challenging! I had in mind such verses as: Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to flesh, but according to Spirit. While we once were "by nature, children of wrath, even as the rest," (Eph 2:3), now that we are "in Christ", there is now no condemnation. There was a time before we were "in Christ", in which we were under God's righteous condemnation. 2Co 5:17 So that if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new! Once we were dead in trespasses and sins. Now we are alive, having been born again, born of God. If anyone is "in Christ", he is a new creation. If we were "in Christ" before the foundation of the world, then when was it that we were dead in our trespasses and sins? It seems to me that there was a time when we were dead in sins, before we were in Christ, then, when we became "in Christ", this involved re-birth, and we became a new creation. This is my understanding. What is your understanding of these verses? Love in Christ, Mark |
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2 | Free will and predestination co-exist? | Rom 8:29 | ebrain | 178618 | ||
It seems to me that there was a time when we were dead in sins, before we were in Christ, then, when we became "in Christ", this involved re-birth, and we became a new creation. This is my understanding. What is your understanding of these verses? Love in Christ, Mark Hi Mark. Thank you for your kind words, it's great to have fellowship with you once more. but please dear brother don't put the cart before the horse. We were not dead in sins, before we were in Christ, but we were in Christ before we were dead in sins. You and I and all other people are inside the "Space Time Continuum", a creation of the Lord superimposed upon Eternity. Eternity is timelessness, and it is in Eternity that God the Father placed us in His Son before the beginning of time, however, we do not come into existance untill after time was created (but He knew that we would exist). We were dead in sins at the point of our conception onwards, (see Psalm 51:5), and remained so untill we were saved, after which we discover that we have been "in Christ" from before the foundation of the earth Now do you get it. Bless you brother. Edwin. |
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