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1 | verse says no longer bound by old test? | Rom 8:1 | tortoise | 112086 | ||
Sure is! When you accept Jesus as your Savior you are forgiven forever and that is it. You cannot break a law that will bring down God's judgment on you (no condemnation or judgment). But God has many guidelines for His children. Are you His child? Then do you want to follow Him and please your heavenly Father. You do know that He loves YOU so much that Jesus laid down His life to deliver you from destruction. It's not about a bunch of rules but the power of God to help you live your life. | ||||||
2 | verse says no longer bound by old test? | Rom 8:1 | kalos | 112139 | ||
Sure is? If there is, then please tell us what that verse might be. Give us the book, chapter and verse where it says "we are no longer bound by the laws of the old testament." "Everyone who commits (practices) sin is guilty of lawlessness; for [that is what] sin is, lawlessness (the breaking, violating of God's law by transgression or neglect--being unrestrained and unregulated by His commands and His will" (AMPLIFIED 1 John 3:4 ) Are we unrestrained and unregulated by God's law? May it never be! The Law is not merely a bunch of rules. "The law of the LORD is perfect..." (NASB Psalm 19:7). A bunch of rules is the legalism practised and taught by the Pharisees. It is true that we are not under legalism. "For sin will not have authority over you; because you are not under legalism but under grace" Romans 6:14 Complete Jewish Bible. Romans 8:4 (ESV) says "in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled IN US, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit" (emphasis added). Notice it does not say "in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled FOR US." It says IN US, not FOR US. The penalty of sin was paid for us; but that does not give us license to continue to sin. The penalty for disobeying the Law was paid for us; but that does not give us license to disobey the Law. Nor does it mean that we automatically keep the Law. "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8 ESV). " My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" (1 John 2:1 ESV). We cannot define sin apart from the Law. Sin is the transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4). If there's no such thing as the Law, then there is no such thing as sin. Sin has not ceased; the Law has not ceased. |
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3 | verse says no longer bound by old test? | Rom 8:1 | tortoise | 112142 | ||
No, we are not unrestrained by the law. Rom 6:1 makes that clear. Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? Rom 6:2 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Rom 6:10 says, "For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. " Christ died to set us free from the law, remember, "no condemnation", see "once for all"? If you are not free from sin how are you free to serve God? Rom 6:22 But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. Rom 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Is it not the gift that has set us free to serve God? Without the gift there is no freedom to serve God. John 8:36 "So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. |
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4 | verse says no longer bound by old test? | Rom 8:1 | kalos | 113700 | ||
You write: "No, we are not unrestrained by the law." Logically, if we are NOT UNrestrained by the law, then we ARE RESTRAINED by it. "If the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed." We are free indeed. We are free to obey the law. |
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5 | verse says no longer bound by old test? | Rom 8:1 | tortoise | 113755 | ||
Hi kalos, True. But are we "bound" by it rom 7:1-6 (see argument I made to rowdy) or are we "under" it, rom 6:11, gal 3:24-25, or is there now any condemnation in Christ Jesus? I don't see how we can have it both ways, it is either grace or works. Rom 11:6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. Aren't we saved by grace and the works are a result of our faith? Yes we should do good works, but if we don't are we not still saved even "as by fire", 1 Cor 3:15? tortoise |
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6 | verse says no longer bound by old test? | Rom 8:1 | kalos | 113813 | ||
And he (Abraham) believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Genesis 15:6 (KJV) tortoise: I'm not aware that I have ever said in any of my 3,611 posts that we are saved by keeping the law. No one was ever saved by keeping the law. "Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness." There is a myth that in the OT era people were saved by keeping the law. It just isn't true. Romans 4:3 (KJV) For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Galatians 3:6 (KJV) Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. James 2:23 (KJV) And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. The just shall live by faith Habakkuk 2:4 (KJV) Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith. No man is justified by the law Galatians 3:11 (KJV) But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. Galations 3:11 (New Living Translation) Consequently, it is clear that no one can ever be right with God by trying to keep the law. For the Scriptures say, "It is through faith that a righteous person has life." Two different ways of being saved? Not according to the Bible. Since the law was not given as a way to be saved in the first place, why do people keep arguing that in the NT era we are not saved by keeping the law? No one was ever saved by keeping the law. Not in the OT. Not in the NT. Not today. And not in the future. Shalom, kalos |
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7 | verse says no longer bound by old test? | Rom 8:1 | tortoise | 113821 | ||
hey kalos, The reason we say that is because we feel we are free from the law, Rom 7:3. Which verse says we are no longer bound by OT law? I have a couple for you. Rom 7:6 "But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter." We are free and release from the law to which we were once bound. If we were once bound does not that mean that we are no longer bound? Likewise, Rom 6:14-15 says, "For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be!" Rom 3:19 says, "Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God". If we are no longer under the law does not the law, therefore, no longer speak to us? Even though there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus it doesn't give us permission to sin. As God's children sin doesn't fit who we are. Your brother in Christ, tortoise |
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8 | verse says no longer bound by old test? | Rom 8:1 | kalos | 113835 | ||
Tortoise: When a thread becomes too long, with too many postings, it tends to become unwieldy -- at least when using my little 4.5-year-old PC. I think this thread is about as long as it needs to be. :-) That is why, in replying to your previous post, I have started a new thread. Hope you don't mind. My reply to your post is contained in ID# 113831, "The law cannot be altogether invalid...". I would appreciate your feedback. Grace and shalom, kalos |
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