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1 | Are we free from the Law? | Rom 7:6 | Born Twice | 149978 | ||
Even Jesus regarded some laws as weightier than others... Matt 23:23 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. (KJV) Look at some of the laws you would be subject to... Farmers could only grow one type of crop and you couldn't wear clothing of mixed fabrics... Lev 19:19 19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee. (KJV) We would all have the same style of a square shaped hair cut - and all men would have a beard... Lev 19:27 27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. (KJV) Doing yard work on Saturday would get you killed... Num 15:32-35 32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. 33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. 34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. 35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. (KJV) Like I said in a previous post, we are not under the law - but if we obey the Spirit of Christ that lives within us, we fulfill the intent of the law - which was to show us our sinfulness and hold us accountable to God. Rom 2:14-15 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) (KJV) |
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2 | Are we free from the Law? | Rom 7:6 | iktoose | 149990 | ||
BornTwice, Yes, I do agree that Jesus said "judgement, mercy, and faith" are weightier than other. However, remember how He completed the sentence, "... these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." He did not say we can disregard those but He said "these ought ye to have done." Correct? In light of that, how can we say that the law that addresses farming/clothing and doing yard work on Sabath day are not important or has no application to us? iktoose! |
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3 | Are we free from the Law? | Rom 7:6 | Born Twice | 149992 | ||
Jesus was talking to Jews who were still under the law... Thus, he rightly said that they should have done all the things in the law. I used that scripture just to show that some of the laws have greater importance to God than others. All of the laws still applied to the Jews that Jesus was speaking to. Now, when it comes to a current day believer being under the law - I think scripture is perfectly clear that we are not. I would go a little further and say that a gentile especially would be exempt from the law. Look at this scripture: Rom 2:14-15 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) This is akin to how the Holy Spirit fulfills the law in us. He writes the law in our heart. Notice verse 15 in the above scripture, it says "Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness," The work of the law is what? Well, scripture tells us the work that the law was created for... Rom 3:19-20 19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. So verse 19 - the law holds the whole world accountable to God. verse 20 - through the law, we become conscious of sin. This is the work that the law does. Now, the Holy Spirit living within us writes this INTENT of the law - this WORK of the law is written on our hearts. The Holy Spirit fulfills the law by not only making us accountable to God and conscious of sin - but the Holy Spirit makes us children of God who have His Spirit living within us. This makes us more than conquerers. Look at 2 Cor 3:2-3 2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: 3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. (KJV) Notice that the law within a believer is now within the heart - there is no need to have it written on tables of stone (the ten commandments) - because God himself lives inside a TRUE believer.... There is a problem with people justifying sinful activity while claiming to be a Christian, but if there is only one and the same Holy Spirit living inside each of us - then we should all be able to agree on what is regarded as sinful behavior. The problem is that there are a lot of people who think they're God's children when in fact, they are just seriously deceived. Matt 7:22-23 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (KJV) Notice- Jesus said MANY will come to him thinking they lived a righteous Christian life. This is why scripture tells us that every man ought to examine himself... |
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4 | What do we do with the OT? | Rom 7:6 | lionheart | 149994 | ||
Born Twice,Greetings brother. Do we then throw out the old testament?I hope not. Check out Romans 15:4. We do ourselves a great diservice and those God brings to us.It is unwise for us to discount any part of Gods Word. Remember Jesus stated clearly that he came to fulfill the law not abolish it.Look at Romans 15:4 and hopefully this makes some sense. In Christ, lionheart |
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5 | What do we do with the OT? | Rom 7:6 | Born Twice | 149997 | ||
The Old Testament is much more than just the levitical law... Old Testament is part of scripture - and the verse you stated reads: Rom 15:4 4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. (KJV) and another similiar scripture is : 2 Tim 3:16 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (KJV) So the Old Testament is not to be thrown out just because Christ fulfilled the law. There are great examples in the Old Testament of how God judges sin - and how Christ was promised to the world... As for the Levitical law, any of the laws that aren't written in the heart of a true Christian can be thrown out as far as responsibility to them goes... You have to ask yourself, does God require me to have a square haircut and a beard???? Lev 19:27 27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. (KJV) I feel no obligation whatsoever to conform to this law - yet it IS a law that God gave. The Holy Spirit within me is concerned with weightier laws - such as those in the ten commandments, but I don't need to read the ten commandments to know that those laws are right - I know naturally that it is wrong to kill, to commit adultery and such... Christ is the fulfillment of these laws and he lives in my heart. Heb 10:15-17 15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, 16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (KJV) God has not written the lesser laws in my heart, therefore I am free of the responsibility of following them - however, as I said in an earlier post, if I do disregard them and my conscience is bothered by it - Then I should obey those laws that bother my conscience. But, Praise God - I am free to cut my hair as I see fit, wear mixed fabrics, and eat a pig if I want to - and feel no guilt about it! |
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6 | What do we do with the OT? | Rom 7:6 | lionheart | 150002 | ||
Brother,brother you will get no argument from me, but the law extends beyond what is contained in Leviticus.The five books of Moses and the rest of the old testament lay the ground work for the spiritual principles that we live by today and Jesus taught those principles.He got in the faces of the religious authorities of his day because they had taken Gods Word which was intended to draw people to him and were turnning it into legalistic tradition that only alienated people.He even told them that those they converted they made more sons of hell than they already were.It is not my intention to lay a guilt trip on anyone,only to educate to show people whats available to them.Paul said- all things are permissable but not all things are benificial.Do we see whats behind this,it's about heart,it's about intent not the letter of the law.I am free to do as I will,but as I do I hope I take into consideration the impact it may or may not have on my walk with God as well as how it may impact my brothers and sisters.Having an understanding of the law and the old testament will only deepen and enrich our understanding and appreciation of what we have in our Lord and savior Jesus Christ today. In Christ, lionheart |
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7 | What do we do with the OT? | Rom 7:6 | Born Twice | 150005 | ||
I agree with what your saying, it is now about intent - not the letter of the law. Which, in effect means that we are free from the law - but our intentions should now be subject to the guidance of the Holy Spirit instead of the letter of the law. I don't want to come off as someone who doesn't value the Old Testament or the wisdom of God in the levitical laws - but the original question was "Are we free from the law" and I believe that the answer is a resounding yes! |
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8 | What do we do with the OT? | Rom 7:6 | DocTrinsograce | 150009 | ||
Perhaps it would be more accurate to put it this way: If we are saved then we are freed from the penalty of the law. | ||||||
9 | What do we do with the OT? | Rom 7:6 | BradK | 150012 | ||
Hi Doc, I noticed the topic on this and thought some comments by C.H., Spurgeon might add to the discussion. In his sermon on Rom. 15:4, he noted: "THE apostle Paul was an inspired man when he wrote this Epistle, so there was no necessity, on the part of the Holy Spirit, when guiding his mind and pen, to employ words which had been used before in the Scriptures, for his language is unlimited. Yet Paul, inspired as he, was, frequently quoted from the Old Testament, and in the verse preceding our text he quotes from the Psalms: “As it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.” One special reason for quoting from the Old Testament was, doubtless, to, put honor upon it, for the Holy Spirit foresaw that there would be some, in these later days, who would speak of it disparagingly. Not so did our Lord Jesus Christ; not so did his apostles; not so did any by whom the Holy Ghost spake. The Old Testament is not to be regarded with one jot less of reverence and love than is the New Testament; they must remain bound together, for they are the one revelation of the mind and will of God; and woe be to the man who shall attempt to rend asunder that seamless garment of Holy Scripture. There are some who speak of the Old Testament as if it were worn out; but, indeed, it has about it all the freshness, and the force, and the dew of it’s youth; and, in the additional light that the New Testament throws upon its histories, its prophecies, and its promises, it has gathered force rather than lost any, so that we, probably, can appreciate the Old Testament Scripture fair more highly now that we have the New Testament also than we could have done if we had not received both the early and the later revelations." "Nor has the authority of the Old Testament ceased. Of course, the legal ceremonies of the Mosaic dispensation are done away with, for we are not under the law, but under grace; yet; even in their passing away, they answer an important purpose. They often afford us instruction where they are not needed for direction. Still is it true, my brethren, concerning the entire Book, that it was” written for our learning;” and he is a learned man who knows much of Scripture, but he is unlearned, and unstable in the things of God, who knows a thousand other things, ‘but does not know what” things were written aforetime,” and who does not bend his soul, his heart, his intellect, to the believing and the understanding of that which God has spoken of old time by his prophets and apostles." Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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10 | What do we do with the OT? | Rom 7:6 | DocTrinsograce | 150013 | ||
Good quote! Thank you, Brad! | ||||||