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1 | Greek Question in Romans | Rom 7:25 | rzacc | 189898 | ||
Greetings All. A Newbie here. I am in Colorado. My first post, and Im not even sure how this formu works, but here goes....duh.. Studying Romans 7-8. I would like to find a site in which I can search the Greek New Testmament...doe anyone know of such a site? The specific question I have is with the words apa ouv in Romans 7:25. It is obvious that Paul is drawing a conclusion, and giving thanks to God for that conclusion, and not answering the question he asked in the previous verse, however, I am struggling with a legitimate and understandable way to translate this into English. Alos, is there another example in the NT where this word pattern is used? Thanks in advance. rz |
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2 | Greek Question in Romans | Rom 7:25 | InGodITrust | 189899 | ||
rzaac, I too am in Colorado, Fremont County to be exact. Welcome to the forum. I have not found a suitable web site to aid one with the Greek, although I have not looked that hard. Let me give you what help I can. Apa, Strongs 686 is an inferential particle. inference. 1. conclusion, a conclusion drawn from evidence or reasoning 2. logic reasoning process, the process of reasoning from a premise to a conclusion 3. implication, something that is implied Apa means, "Then or therefore, and indicating an interrogative." interrogative, adj. 1. questioning, questioning or seeming to question somebody or something 2. grammar used to ask a question, consisting of or used in asking a question "Ouv" Strong's 3767 is a conjuction. conjunction (plural conjunctions) 1. combining of several things, the joining together or combining of two or more things 2. simultaneous occurrence, a simultaneous occurrence of events or circumstances 3. grammar connecting word, a word that is used to link sentences, clauses, phrases, or words, for example, “and,” “but,” or “if." So, not sure exactly how to answer your question? To find another example where "apa ouv" is used would require that you deposit 50.00 "finders fee!" Just kidding, but it would entale a lot of time. The last question is that "Paul did not answer his question in verse 24. Verse 25 is the answer to his question,i.e. "Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?" The answer, verse 25: Thanks be to God (the answer) through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then,(apa ouv;I have concluded that this is indeed the answer)"On the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin." This is the contrast between our new man in Christ and the old man of the flesh. God has left us with this constant struggle between the flesh and the spirit. Why? I have asked myself this a thousand times. The answer; so that we too will share the reward and (partial) glory with Christ Jesus who Himself came to earth to deliver (eventually in our new body)us from the power of sin. Hope this helps, let us know. InGodITrust |
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3 | Greek Question in Romans | Rom 7:25 | rzacc | 189930 | ||
Howdy, and thanks for your reply. I am in Teller County - Park County line at Lk George. Dont worry about the finder's fee- I can look it up. I thought for a long time that :25 was the answer to the question in :24 also, but have decided against it. In order to make it answer the question, one must expand the text beyond it's limits. He is surely thanking God for the battle! It is proof that the Spirit is working in the heart..without the Spirit, no war- Also see Galatians 5:17-26. Why is it still a reality? I think part of the answer to that is that our sanctification, not unlike our justification, is 'by faith'. He has told us the reality of our new nature in Christ in Rom 5-7, and 'a man is as he thinks (or believes)'. If our faith is real, we will believe it and live it. Thus our conformity to Chirst in our 'walk', our our 'condition', is a matter of faith - there is not othe way to win that battle. And, since faith is a gift of God, HE gets the glory for it in the end, not us. Thus in Rev. 4 we cast our crowns at His feet! Truly "all things are from Him, and through Him, and To Him, to HIM be the Glory forever...Amen!" Just one man's opinion, and it's worth exactly what you paid for it! Blessings rzacc Have courage. Stand always for the truth, remain dependant upon Him and humble before His word, and God will use you to change your world! Have courage. Stand always for the truth, remain dependant upon Him and humble before His word, and God will use you to change your world! |
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4 | Greek Question in Romans | Rom 7:25 | InGodITrust | 189940 | ||
Amen rzaac, Your answer is right on brother!! Exactly what I would have said had you not said it. While the Bible demands faith, our faith is a gift from God and not something we "muster up." The question so many Christians can't seem to understand is "everything, absolutely everything" is from God, through God and to God. While the Word seems to indicate we must do this, we must have that, we must be this, we all at times miss the whole point. "For it is God who is at work in you; both to will and to work for His good pleasure." Philippians 2:13 The Word as well as the Law points to our need and our lack of ability to do so. It is through prayer, humility, and yes faith, that we present ourselves each and every day to our Lord and beg Him to "give us the will, the desire, and yes the faith to live the life He has for us. "Without Me you can do nothing." Jesus said in John. Blessings my friend, God's Day to you, InGodITrust |
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5 | Greek Question in Romans | Rom 7:25 | rzacc | 189941 | ||
And AMEN back to you. It is so refreshing to find a list that exhibits some depth of spiritual understanding. I have been involved in so many discussions with people who just do not make the connection. What do you think about the following?: One way I have come to look at our daily walk, and our struggle with our own failures and sins, is through the following acronym: I D I D. -as in "I did". I: Impotence. We must come to the realization that we are totally helpless, and can do nothing on our own. D: Dependance. As a result of our impotence, we must see ourselves utterly dependant upon Him and any good which comes from anything in our lives must come as a result of our complete dependance upon Him. I: Intimacy. In order to maintain any degree of consistancy, we need an intimate relastionship. D: Discipline. It's a long walk, and we learn by, and things get easier and more consistent, through repitition. We need discipline. Anyway, just some ramblings as a result of too much time to think lately...it's been a long winter! Coram Deo, ronz To you: Courage, Strength, Honor, and Unfathomable Grace ps: Someone has well-said: You Can Not Make Faith A Work. |
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6 | Greek Question in Romans | Rom 7:25 | InGodITrust | 189942 | ||
Right on brother, A Big Amen ironz........... That is wonderful, I will paste this post and save to disk. Fabulous, did you create that acronym yourself? InGodITrust |
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7 | Greek Question in Romans | Rom 7:25 | rzacc | 189944 | ||
It is the result of having struggled with the concept in class, and trying to explain it to students ... God created it. Coram Deo, ronz "If God requires of the sinner, dead in sin, that he should take the first step, then he requires just that which renders salvation as impossible under the gospel as it was under the law, since man is as unable to believe as he is to obey." C H Spurgeon |
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8 | Greek Question in Romans | Rom 7:25 | InGodITrust | 189946 | ||
'AWESOME.......' Spurgeon lives on; His godly life and example is to all of us "inspiration magnifica." mag·nif·ic mag·nif·ic [mag níffik] or mag·nif·i·cal [mag níffik’l] adj (archaic) 1. magnificent: magnificent 2. big and imposing: large in size and impressive in appearance 3. using impressive words: using high-sounding vocabulary, often for effect [15th century. Directly, or via Old French magnifique , from Latin magnificus , literally “performing great actions,” from magnus “great” (see magnify).] |
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