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1 | Can a toddler go to heaven? | Rom 3:23 | John Reformed | 76854 | ||
My Friend, Cornelius could not have even understood, nevermind believed or feared God, unless God had opened his eyes and ears. He had first to raised to spiritual life prior to placing his faith in Christ. Paul is clear on this point: 1 Cor 2:14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. 1 Cor 2:14 "But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised." John |
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2 | Can a toddler go to heaven? | Rom 3:23 | disciplerami | 76860 | ||
Dear John, I think there is an assumption on your part that a lost man cannot spiritually discern things. Just as the Corinthians were not thinking spiritually, and needed to be given milk, so a lost man can choose to see things from a spiritual perspective. Cornelius did not need to first be regenerated or supernaturally enlightened in order to seek God. The Word of God, the divine message that is proclaimed in the heavens, is enough to get the natural man to thinking spiritually. It's amazing how close we are, but we not as close as I would like. Have a good day. |
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3 | Can a toddler go to heaven? | Rom 3:23 | John Reformed | 76869 | ||
1 Cor 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, 1 Cor 2:13 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. 1 Cor 2:14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. Dear disciplerami, I honestly cannot understand how one could read 1 cor 2 and come to the conclusion that Paul is talkng about saints as "natural" men. It is quite plain that he is contrasting "but" (v.13) the saints of Corinth "we" (v.12) with "natural man" (v.14.) I am not "assuming" anything. It is as clear as glass. "we" have received, NOT the spirit of the world, BUT the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God. John |
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4 | Can a toddler go to heaven? | Rom 3:23 | disciplerami | 76884 | ||
Hi John, Thanks for continuing this dialogue with me. I mean no offense to you. Let me try again on the passages you quote. The scripture in question: “now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.” – 1 Cor. 2:12-14 The 'we' of verse 12 is talking about the apostle Paul and others who delivered the message to the Corinthians. In 2:1, he says, “and when I came to you, brethren, I did not come with superiority of speech…” In verse seven, he says, “but we speak God’s wisdom in a MYSTERY, the hidden wisdom which God predestined…” Still defending his authority in chapter 4, he says, “let a man regard us in this manner, as servants of Christ and stewards of the MYSTERIES of God. In the beginning of chapter 3, as well, verse 1 says, "and I, brethren, could not speak to you AS TO SPIRITUAL MEN, but as to MEN OF FLESH, as to infants in Christ. I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able, for you are still FLESHLY. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not FLESHLY, and are you not walking like mere men? For when one says, "I am of Paul,' and another, "I am of Apollos..." Now, smack dab in the middle of this defense of his authority and a chastisement of the fleshly Corinthian church, he says, "But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised." Now check out verse 15: “but he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.” Compare this with 4:3-5, “but to me it is a very small thing that I may be examined by you, or by any human court; in fact, I do not even examine myself. For I am conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this acquitted; but the one who examines me is the Lord. Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.” Verse seven he refers to them ‘boasting.’ John, I don’t have to remind you that the Corinthian church needed a lot of work. I believe that Paul is trying to preach the truth to the Corinthians, but some of them were challenging his authority. They were still fleshly, acting like ‘mere men.’ It was necessary that the step back and do an appraisal of their judgments up to that time. This would require a spiritual appraisal of these matters, and a real effort to get past their carnal ways. Your thoughts please, Good day. |
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5 | Can a toddler go to heaven? | Rom 3:23 | sniper | 76886 | ||
Disciplerami, I apologize for jumping into your discussion. I have been following along in the posts. I found this post to be logical, informative, and a very good contextual study. Thank you for your work on this passage, it has helped me to better understand this issue. Sniper |
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6 | Can a toddler go to heaven? | Rom 3:23 | disciplerami | 76914 | ||
Your welcome. Thanks for saying so. I also appreciate the way John and I have been able to discourse. Have a good day. |
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