Results 1 - 5 of 5
|
|
|||||
Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Ordered by Verse | ||||||
Results | Verse | Author | ID# | |||
1 | why do we have to call Jesus -Lord Jesus | Rom 10:9 | meta | 209719 | ||
You make a lot of assumptions Doc. Do you honestly think that there were no unbelievers in Israel. Zacchaeus was a tax collector. Why would he have to know anything. I know many jewish people. I know many Messianic jews and I have known and worked for and with many others, some extreme orthodox some religeous and some Jews by birth with no desire to know God or have anything to do with the spiritual aspect of the culture that was their birthright. There is nothing in the scriptures that even hints that Zaccheus wanted anything to do with these things. He also lived in a time when a lot of people were turned away from the faith by the hypocritical abuses of the pharisees. They as you probably know were a sect that came into being to call Israel back to a respect for Gods Scriptures. But pride and the flesh had taken them to point that they opposed God when He did come to them. There were times in Israel when no one knew anything about the scriptures because they had been ignored for so long that there was not even a copy in existence that they knew of. There have always been religeous zealots and apathetic people that could not care less for their incredible birthright. I have no idea what you are referring to when you refer to pointless emotionalism. I am certain that there are times when you feel passion for Christ or the Holy Spirit or the Father. What is pointless about passion that is from or towards God. I am not attempting to be sarcastic. I really do not know what you are talking about. I understand the meaning and there is obviously lots of pointless emotionalism in the world however I do not see it in respect to what we are discussing. |
||||||
2 | why do we have to call Jesus -Lord Jesus | Rom 10:9 | DocTrinsograce | 209739 | ||
Dear Meta, I believe it was you who mentioned Zacchaeus as one who would espouse the superiority of emotion over thought. It seemed a bit out of left field to me, but then I am fine with rabbit trails. I assumed that he somehow did have bearing on the question, since you brought him up. I congratulate you on your experience with varying stripes of Jewish people. As I am a Jewish person -- saved by God's grace alone, through faith alone, by the completed work of Christ alone, and to God's glory alone -- I trust you will grant me the leeway to focus on text of the Bible. You see, our forum is rooted in sola Scriptura. Our doctrine is drawn solely from the text of the Bible. You asked, "Why would he have to know anything" (sic) From Luke 19 we may understand that Zacchaeus knew the following: 1. He knew something about Jesus and His ministry, for it was knowledge that had attracted the man's attention (v3). The chief tax collector's curiosity was so keen that he used extraordinary measures to satisfy it (v4). Zacchaeus foresaw an opportunity, quickly devised a plan, hasted to implement it in accommodation of his physical limitations. When does anyone do that kind of thing in absence of knowledge? 2. Many people approached Jesus directly. What knowledge do you think this fellow had that caused such humility (vv 2 and 7)? Without knowledge of the law, he would have had no sense of guilt (Romans 7:7). That sense of guilt is manifest in the choice of action that follows. 3. When Christ singled out Zacchaeus -- note that Christ approached him, not vice versa -- he experienced great joy (Luke 19:6). How would that have been possible if he hadn't known that Jesus had called him? Even the crowd knew the implications of what was going on (v7). 4. The work of conversion in Zacchaeus is worked out clearly and visibly (v8). Zacchaeus calls Jesus "Lord" -- a title that Luke uses repeatedly to affirm the authority and power of the Son. Zacchaeus expresses his godly zeal by his generous offering to the poor. Furthermore, he demonstrates his repentance by his pledge to restore what he had stolen. 5. Zacchaeus demonstrates an understanding of the particulars of the Law in offering to restore fourfold (Exodus 22:1; Leviticus 6:5). 6. Jesus confirms that the blessings of salvation has been gifted to Zacchaeus. In order to please God, the author of Hebrews tells us that a person must KNOW that God is and that He is a rewarder of them that seek Him (Hebrews 11:6). Paul tells us, "How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in Him of whom they have never heard?" (Romans 10:14a ESV) The gospel is rooted in truth that is heard and understood (Colossians 1:5). Christ says, "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free" (John 8:32). Note that the Bible never says, "You will feel passion and your passion will set you free." So, I say again, Zacchaeus doesn't help you in your opinion of human intellect. The Scriptures bear out the fact that emotion follows knowledge. Of course, it will take application of thought and of study -- intellect things -- for it to become clear. In Him, Doc PS You've been a member of the forum for a year now. Why don't you update your profile and tell us about yourself and the church you attend? |
||||||
3 | why do we have to call Jesus -Lord Jesus | Rom 10:9 | meta | 209748 | ||
It appears that I cannot win with you. If I say I do not wantb to argue then you will most likely remind me of something I said previously, rather than to hear what I am saying now. But the truth is I see your point and value what you have to say. It is too bad that it is not a two way street. This is the last reply I will send . Thank you for your efforts to enlighten me. | ||||||
4 | why do we have to call Jesus -Lord Jesus | Rom 10:9 | CDBJ | 209751 | ||
Greetings, Is it a point of winning on a Bible study forum or pointing out from scripture where the truth stands? John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. You have posted five times in this past series and not once have you pointed out actual chapters or verses. I realize you know the characters of the Bible but chapter and verse is needed to prove a point. 2 Tim. 3:16-17 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. Please debate with proof, CDBJ |
||||||
5 | why do we have to call Jesus -Lord Jesus | Rom 10:9 | meta | 209765 | ||
Thank you | ||||||