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1 | where did this teaching come from? | Acts 2:37 | Grace and Truth | 52724 | ||
"Brethren, what shall we do?" I would just like to discuss this question a little bit to understand why Peter by the Holy Spirit gave the people the answer that he gave! Is it the fact that those who ask the question knew they had to submit to something, in order to remove the guilt and sins they had committed? Or did they know that their salvation was already secured, and they could just go about their lives? They knew that they were guilty of killing the Just One, the Son of the living God, so they were looking for a way out of the mess they were in. So they ask the most important question that could ever have been asked, "Brethren, what shall we do?" I now wonder if the teaches of today had to give the answer to that question, would they give the same answer that Peter gave? Or would we get answers like the one's given on this forum! Someone said, that they were glad that they didn't have to jump through "hoops and loops" to come to Christ, how or what answer would you give then to these who asked the question "What shall we do?" Would your answer be the same as Peter's answer? Or would you take out the "hoops and loops?" I know from what I read about "hoops and loops" that baptism would be out of the question because God never included baptism in his salvation plan, and this is what you believe, am I right? Now my question is where did this teaching start That baptism is not and has never been a part of God's salvation plan? The only place in the bible that I found that was negative about baptism was in 1 Cor. 1:10-17 where the members of the corinthian church had a problem that caused division in that church about who the were baptized by! I what we learn here, is that it wasn't baptism it self, but who baptized who! Notice, vs.12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. vs.13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? vs.14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; vs.15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in my own name. vs.16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. vs 17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. The above text does not teach against baptism, but against divisions, being baptized in the name of Jesus or by the authority of Jesus Christ is the true way, and as stated in Matt 28:19 Baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son,and of the Holy Spirit: There are no other places in the bible that teach anything negative about baptism or being baptized. So where did this teaching come from? Who's the author of that doctrine? | ||||||
2 | where did this teaching come from? | Acts 2:37 | Ray | 52812 | ||
Hi there, I don't think that anyone is going to jump in here and say that the suggested doctrine is from the "pit of hell" or the father of lies. Personally, I believe that when a subject has so many divisions in it then we should wonder about the entire subject. In other words, we have infant baptism or believer's baptism, sprinkling or immersion, is speaking in tongues necessary after the baptism, only to name a few conflicts. All of these discussions leave one wondering if he/she has done everything that is needed. It takes away the "knowing" that we should have about our salvation. John 20:31, "but these have been written that you may believe that *Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name." We have life by His authority not because we have been baptized in water in His name. We are justified by His grace. Titus 3:5, "that being justified by *His grace we might be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." Romans 5:5, my interpretation for what it is worth, "and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the *holy *spirit given to us." Ezekiel 36:25, "Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. Moreover, *I will give you a new heart and a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh."******Here we have a new spirit within us; new attitudes, new desires, new life. Ezekiel 36:27, "And I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in (My) statutes,..." **** Here we are walking in God's path because of His Spirit dwelling in us. This verse and the one above speak of the Holy Spirit and the new spirit within you. The important baptism is the baptism of the holy spirit and being born of the Spirit. John 3:6, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the *Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again' [or, from above]" Compare Titus 3:5 I would like us to press on to maturity, and leave these elementary teachings of instruction about washings. We have tasted of the heavenly gift and been partakers of the holy spirit and tasted the good word of God. Let's not fall away and after the washings go back in the mud to wallow in the mire. See Hebrews 6:1-12 and 2 Peter 2:22. |
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3 | where did this teaching come from? | Acts 2:37 | Jeshuafreak | 52817 | ||
Ray- Thank you for your passion on what is truelly important. I agree with you about leaving behind the trivial and press forward to what is truelly significant. With that said I must maintain that water baptism , though it won't negate you from the entrance into heaven it is something we must do as a result of our conversion to a Holy Spirit filled life. We are baptized publicly to confess to all that we are buried with Christ and resurected with Him to eternal glory. If you are able, and I assume you are in a healthy well balanced church, than by all means be baptized. Again I thank you for your passion. May God illuminate your heart and mind with His Word. -Jeshuafreak |
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