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1 | Born of the water means? | John 3:5 | Morant61 | 134178 | ||
Greetings Brenann512! There are various views concerning what John 3:5 means when it says 'born of water'. The first thing that one should note is that no form of the word 'baptism' is used in the passage. The second thing that one should note is that both natural and spiritual birth are in view in this passage. Notice what Nicodemus said in John 3:4 - "'How can a man be born when he is old?' Nicodemus asked. 'Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb to be born!'" Notice what Jesus said in John 3:6 - "Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit." So, in the verse preceeding John 3:5 and in the verse following John 3:5, natural birth is in view in contrast to spiritual birth. Thus, I would argue that John 3:5 also refers to the same contrast and that 'born of water' is simply another way of saying 'natural birth'. This view does justice to the context and does not force one to add a word that is not even in the passage. I hope this helps! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Born of the water means? | John 3:5 | Mommapbs | 134184 | ||
Greetings Tim. As I was reading these posts I was reminded about the passage in 1 John 5:5-8. Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.For there are three that testify:the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. . . And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.(v11) Consider this passage with Heb 9:11-12. Since 1 John is talking about overcoming the world - triumphing over sin - might this be referencing the blood of Christ offered in the Heavenly tabernacle? Might this all be referencing the "new birth" of John 3? Man is born of water only, "flesh gives birth to flesh," yet it is the water and the blood which enables the "new birth" or "the Spirit gives birth to spirit" - just wondering if this fits together? I'd appreciate your insight here. Blessings, mommapbs |
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3 | Born of the water means? | John 3:5 | Morant61 | 134191 | ||
Greetings Mommapbs! Excellent questions! I haven't read of anyone who connects 'water and blood' with birth and death in 1 John 5, but I would say that it is certainly possible. It is interesting that the same phrase is used in John 19:34 to speak of the blood and water that flowed from Jesus' side at the cross. Augustine held that this is that to which 1 John 5:6 referred. Certainly, the historical context of 1 John would lend support to the view that 'water and blood' may have referred to His birth and death. Tradition (through Irenaeus) tells us that one of John's chief opponents was a man by the name of Cerinthus. Cerinthus denied the full incarnation of Christ. I have also found it interesting that John 3 doesn't really speak of being 'born again'. The actual word used is 'born from above'. Thus, the contrast would be between 'born from below' and 'born from above' - i.e. natural and spiritual birth. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Born of the water means? | John 3:5 | Mommapbs | 134193 | ||
Thanks Tim - God's Word has NO insignificant words! The water and blood that flowed from Christ's side does indeed seem (to me) to be referenced here too. Some people with medical knowledge have a physical explanation for this, but imo God may have something else in mind here! Blessings to you and yours! mommapbs |
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