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1 | Is the Formula for sin to hate anything? | John 3:14 | srbaegon | 46560 | ||
Hello Giam Yes, God loves us all the way! But the following logic in your posting doesn't make sense to me. God is love (1 John 4:8), so He freely loves us. Matt 22:36-40 commands us to love God and love people because these are not natural to us. God must place His love in us to accomplish this. And I agree with the correlation of love to Matt 7:12. You wrote: "So Steve, before we can love others, we have to lvoe ourselves." I disagree. We naturally love ourselves too much. The whole idea of following Christ is to deny ourselves and lose our lives so that He might have His perfect way in us (Matt 16:24-26). You go on to mention how we like or dislike our character traits and actions that we see in others. That's true. But I think you are making a simple thing very complicated. Steve |
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2 | Is the Formula for sin to hate anything? | John 3:14 | Giam | 46668 | ||
Steve, To continue: Then on that premise, my logic wd make more sense to u: God is Love because His law is Love, and His law is Love because he is Love! All proper premises are circular, are in parallel!... so that the straight-line logical logic can tie back in to the beginning! see? So when God was by himself with everything IN HIM, BEFORE he created anything, God loved himself as et and so loved et as himself! Then he decided that because he loved himself all the way, never too much, just enough from moment to moment, he wd create et out of himself, he wd create himself into everything TO CONTINUE loving et as himself outside of Himself! That is why colossinas 1:17: all things consist OF HIM! So of all things he crated, he gave man a mind like his: So it is clear that when God continued to lvoe Himself as Man in order to lvoe Man as Himself, the very first thing God wanted man to do was to lvoe man himself as God in order to lvoe God as himself! 1 john 4:19. See? Please see that! Then Man's love for God wd be genuine! For Man wd know that he WAS just giving God back the Love that God had first given him to give to himself and so give it back to God! And Because man wd be loving himself as God to lvoe God as himself, God wd know that man knew that God loved him, and that man was loving God because man was loving himself! Then there wd no faking it nor hypocrisy of saying something like: God I hate me that u made, and by the me u made i that i hate, i am now loving u and thanking u for u! See? God wd then say: Giam, do u know who made U? I amde u! And do u know who I amde u out of? I made u out of me! So how can u hate u that I made out me and still have the hypocrisy to say u love me while u hate the u that is who empowers U to say u love me? Giam! U can't hate u and genuinely love me: for I am U! and u are Me! So Giam, when i lvoe u as myself, that is HOW u are are to love U! so u can love me back as U! I don't need your Love! I am already loving me: that is why I made U out of me! So I want your Love not for my sake but for yours: For when I hear u loving Me out of Love for U, what do i know? U must be loving U too! Giam, don't u see? Go and love u as me so u can love me as u automatically! And btw, also add in loving u as all your neybas so u can lvoe them as u automatically! Just do it, Giam! Sigh Steve, I lvoe u as myself and so lvoe u as me! I love u as God and so love God as u! I love u as God and so see God in u! I lvoe God as u and so see U in God! Is that so bad an idea" I think it is the most wonderful gift God has ever given to me, and so I share it with u and with all! Ok? That is why God says: 1 John 3 1 Behold, what manner of Love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. or as He wd say in direct speech: When I shall appear u shall be like me, For you shall see me as I am! 3 And every man that hath this hope of Love in him purifieth himself in love even as in Love he is pure! So Steve, "The whole idea of following Christ is to deny HATE TO ourselves and lose HATE FOR our lives so that He might have His perfect way OF LOVE in us (Matt 16:24-26). Sigh Matthew 16 24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself in Love, and take up his cross of Love, and follow me in Love. 25 For whosoever will save his life in hate of death shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life in Love of death for my sake shall find it. 26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world in hate of himself having nothing and in hate of himself as a loser, and so lose his own soul of love fro himself? or what shall/can a man give in exchange for his soul of Love when Love is waht makes life worth living? Look fwd to your thot ful comments! Loving myself as u and so loving u as myself, giam |
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3 | Is the Formula for sin to hate anything? | John 3:14 | srbaegon | 46743 | ||
Hello Giam I'm sorry, but your logic is exceedingly difficult to follow. Much of my difficulty has to do with your use of the word "as". When you write: "So it is clear that when God continued to lvoe Himself as Man in order to lvoe Man as Himself,...", do you mean that God saw Himself to be a man and therefore loved Himself as a man? Or do you mean God loved man in the same way He loved Himself? Or is there another meaning? Also, you continually add words to Scripture. That is disrespectful. Please stop. Steve |
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4 | Is the Formula for sin to hate anything? | John 3:14 | Giam | 46777 | ||
Sorry Steve! I do see your point, based on Rev 22:18-19, why anyone cd think so! No disrespect meant, but since it is disrespect to u, I will stop in Love and in Respect! Once again, it was done to save time and space! So rather than having to write/paste the verse then write what i think the verse means in Love, I cd just do it in one! But in love and in respect of myself as disrespectful, I accept yout categorization of me as disrespectful even when I KNOW I was not, and so will comply in Love and Respect! smile No problem! Like that? Love does work! As to the word 'as,': it means both of the meanings u thot of, and more: 3.as much as, 4.all the time as 5.as if u were, 6.as the same name as, 7.as every word as. 8. as is. Plus more i am sure! Believe it or not, they all are equal in meaning as to Love: So for God to love man as Himself is for God to love man as is man were God, is to love man in the same way God loves Himself, is to love man as much as God lvoes Himself, is to lvoe man as if God were man, is to love man all the time as or while God loves Himself, is to love man as the name God is to love man as all the names and words God lvoes Himself as, is to love Man as is! See? All the above each prove one thing: That man is another name for God! And that God is another name for Man! John 10:34-35 and Psalms 82:6 and Genesis 1:26. 'As' is the most important 2 letter word in all the Bible! and its use is so elegant: It can mean at least 10 other meanings, and so enables God and us to be concise and yet say it all in one word! The only 'bad' thing about that is that all the truth then lies hidden IN the words! Which is also 'good' since God wanted to hide the truth in Love! Proverbs 25:2.. so we cd dig it out! And of course having dug it out, i love to spread it out like butter! which may offend others, present company excepted of course!, who are not there yet! smile Of course when we love 'as' as all other words, not only does 'as' mean all words but also all other words mean 'as'! The principle is in Love itself: When we love all words, Love means all words and all words mean Love! Then that overall general principle applies to each word: So when I love Steve as all words, Steve means all words to me and all words mean Steve to me! Which Love is why someone has said to u: Steve, u mean everything to me! meaning Steve, all words mean u to me! Of course that cd only be actully true all the way if the person who said so DID love all words! And see how circular it is! That's because Love is the Circle of God and so of all words and so of all life! Looking fwd to hearing from u in Love and in Respect! smile giam |
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5 | Is the Formula for sin to hate anything? | John 3:14 | srbaegon | 46781 | ||
Hello Giam In the name of love you have intertwined God with creation to such an extent that I must conclude you are a heretic teaching pantheism. I have no time for such frivilous activity. Steve |
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6 | Is the Formula for sin to hate anything? | John 3:14 | Hank | 46782 | ||
Steve, I too read pantheism into Giam's post, but I'm so confused by his 'code of love' locutions, I'm not sure what he means, and doubt that others, including himself, are either! --Hank | ||||||