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1 | Is Jesus God? | John 1:1 | jg8ball | 1311 | ||
Can anyone show me any passages that show that Jesus is God? A friend of mine believes that Jesus is the Son of God but not God (and the Holy Spirit is the action of God but not God). I've shown him many verses but most can also be interpreted as separate individuals (for example: I baptize you in the name of the Father and in the Son, and in the Holy Spirit could be interpreted as baptizing in the name of the three separate entities.) I've also shown him the classic John 1:1 and similar verses but he interprets it at Jesus and God think alike, have the same mission, similar in nature, etc... Is there something in the Bible that very simply and cleary says that the Three are one? To me there are many verses that state this clearly, but to him, they state something completely different. |
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2 | Is Jesus God? | John 1:1 | kalos | 1312 | ||
Your question: Can anyone show me any passages that show that Jesus is God? . . . The following outline is taken from Baker Topical Guide to the Bible, Walter A. Elwell, (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1991), ISBN 0-8010-2255-X, pp. 88-106. The Scripture references are far too numerous to include here. Also, if your friend is sincere, I would suggest he read (without the accompanying interpretation of The Watchtower organization) the entire New Testament, particularly the Gospel of John and the other gospels. As to your friend's unbelief, as Jesus said in Luke 16:31: "If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead." Likewise, if they do not listen to Jesus Himself (the Gospels) and the Apostles (NT Epistles), they wouldn't believe if they were eyewitnesses to Jesus' resurrection. Here is my answer. The Deity of Christ. ...A. Jesus' Claims to Deity. . . . 1. Claims Relating to God. . . . a) Jesus Claimed Equality with God. Matt 10:40; Matt 11; Matt 28; John 3; 5; 6; 8; 10; 12; 14; 15; 16; 17. . . . b) Jesus Claimed the Rights of God. . . . (1) Jesus Claimed to Forgive Sins. . . . (2) Jesus Claimed to Give Life. . . . (3) Jesus Claimed to Judge. . . . (4) Jesus Claimed to Grant Spiritual Blessings. . . . (5) Jesus Did Miracles. . . . (6) Jesus Cleansed the Temple. . . . (7) Jesus Claimed to Establish God's Kingdom. . . . (8) Jesus Exorcised Demons. . . . (9) Jesus Claimed to Defeat Satan. . . . (10) Jesus Claimed to Be Lord of the Sabbath. . . . (11) Jesus Claimed to Be David's Lord. . . . c) Jesus Claimed the Authority of God. . . . d) Jesus Described Himself as God's Counterpart on Earth. . . . e) Jesus Accepted Prayer, Praise and Worship. . . . f) Jesus Found the Source of Power within Himself. . . . g) Jesus Never Showed Any Consciousness of Sin. . . . 2. Claims Relating to Human Beings. . . . a) Jesus Promised Peace and Rest to Those Who Trust Him. . . . b) Jesus Claimed Power over All Life, Space, and Time. . . . c) Jesus Claimed to Determine People's Eternal Destiny. . . . d) Jesus Claimed Final Authority over People. . . . 3. Claims Relating to Jesus' Mission. . . . a) Jesus Came to Be People's Savior. . . . b) Jesus Came to Make God Known. . . . c) Jesus Came to Sum Up the Entire OT. B. NT Claims to Jesus' Deity. . . . 1. Jesus Is Considered Equal with God. Acts 2; 1 Cor 1; 12; 13; Eph 4; 6; Phil 2:6; Col 1; 2; 3; 1 Thess 3; 2 Thess 2; 1 John 2; 1 John 5; Rev 20; Rev 22. . . . 2. Jesus Possesses God's Attributes. E.g., Omnipotence; Omnipresence; Omniscience; etc. . . . 3. Jesus Does the Work of God. . . . a) God's Work Related to the Created Order. . . . b) God's Work Related to Mankind. . . . c) God's Work Related to the Problem of Sin. . . . d) God's Work Related to Believers. . . . e) God's Work Related to Scripture. . . . 4. Jesus Is Identified with God. . . . 5. Jesus Is Paralleled with God. . . . 6. Jesus Is Assigned OT Designations of God. . . . 7. Jesus Is Superior to Men and Angels. . . . 8. Jesus Receives Prayer, Praise, and Worship. . . . C. The Sinlessness of Jesus. . . . D. The Glory of Christ. . . . E. The Resurrection of Christ. . . . F. The Exaltation of Christ. |
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3 | Is Jesus God? | John 1:1 | jg8ball | 1316 | ||
Thanks for the info. I'll let you know if it helps. I have been working with him for the last several months and he is extremely open (for a JW) but can't make that final step be he is able to admit of several flaws in the JW teaching. I just bought him a parallel bible with KJV, NASB, NIV, and NLT in hopes that he will read it for himself and see how the NWT clouds the meanings. |
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4 | Jesus and Jehovah-same subject? | John 1:1 | bcbloyd | 1602 | ||
I'm not sure how he can interpret the phrase "the Word was God" (or even "the Word was a god" found in the JWs New World Translation) to mean being of the same thoughts, mission, and nature? How can someone have the divine nature of God and NOT be Divine/God himself? John 1:1 says "was God" NOT "thinks like God" or "has the same mission as God." If he prefers the NWT translation, I'd have to ask then, "is Jesus a true or false god?" If false, then why honor him at all? If true, then are there two gods? It's my understanding that JWs believe Jehovah is the Almighty God and Jesus is the "mighty" god; if that is the case, is that not polytheism? Does that not contradict Isaiah 43:10-12? I would also be interested in any explanation of why Peter, who quotes Joel 2:32 in Acts 2:21,says that name by which we are saved is none other than Jesus' name in Acts 4:12. Actually, if you look at Acts 4, you'll see several references to OT verses that Peter points to as being about Jesus, but when read in the OT, one learns the subject is the "LORD" (The all caps indicated the appearance of YHWH in the original Hebrew manuscripts, transliterated to Yahweh or Jehovah). Was Peter mistakenly attributing verses about Jehovah to Jesus? Or was he right? It's worth thinking about. Also, how about Hebrews 1:8-12, which has God (the Father) speaking of the Son and calling Him "God" and "Lord" (see verse 10) who created the heavens and earth. The writer of Hebrews is pointing out that the Subject of these OT verses is the Jesus...Actually the Father speaking of the Son! Looking at the NT verses (particularly verse 10-12), we have NT verses about Jesus that in the context of the OT (Psalms 102) the subject of the verse is the LORD. Was the writer of Hebrews in error? It would be interesting to have him read Psalms 102:19-27 and ask him who is the subject of these verses? Who created the heavens, Who is the same and whose years won't end? Be clear on who these verses are about first... Then, have him turn to Hebrews and read verses 8-12. On other JW topics, have you spoken about false prophecies that WT has given? It's hard to convince a JW of given up their theology if they maintain a strong belief in the organization promoting it, but if one can prove the foundation is weak, the theology crumbles. I don't know if this helps? In any case, may the Holy Spirit be your guide, I pray. In Christ Jesus, bcbloyd |
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5 | Jesus and Jehovah-same subject? | John 1:1 | jg8ball | 1611 | ||
Thanks again. He believes that Jesus is the Son of God, not God. He can't comprehend how the two can be the same. I've shown him Heb 1:8-12 and he admits that he has no answer for it and will ask his elders (which could get him into much trouble) I'm currently showing him the many verses that tell us that we are to worhship only God and verses that talk about worshiping Jesus. This too has him thinking a little more. Not sold yet, but at least thinking on his own (instead of through the watchtower) He admits that the JW's have been wrong before but points to the many errors other denominations have made like the spanish inquisitions. |
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6 | Jesus and Jehovah-same subject? | John 1:1 | obstacle1 | 150024 | ||
According to John 1:1 in some bibles, the Word was God. First of all, how can the Word be God if he was with God as stated in the same verse?The literal word "God or god" in reference to Jesus is used to mean he is a might divine being not God himself. Does the idea that Jesus Christ is “a god” conflict with the Scriptural teaching that there is only one God? (1 Cor. 8:5, 6) Not at all. At times the Hebrew Scriptures employ the term for God, ’elo·him´, with reference to mighty creatures. At Psalm 8:5, for example, we read: “You also proceeded to make him [man] a little less than godlike ones.” (Hebrew, ’elohim´; “a god,” New English Bible, Jerusalem Bible) The Greek Septuagint Version renders elo·him´ here as “angels.” The Jewish translators of this version saw no conflict with monotheism in applying the term for God to created spirit persons. (Compare Hebrews 2:7, 9.) Similarly, Jews of the first century C.E. found no conflict with their belief in one God at Psalm 82, though verses 1 and 6 of this psalm utilize the word ’elo·him´ (the·oi´, plural of the·os´, Septuagint) with reference to human judges.—Compare John 10:34-36. Jesus Christ, according to the Scriptures, is “the image of the invisible God.” (Col. 1:15) Yet Christians with a heavenly calling expect to bear Christ’s image in its fullness, becoming partakers of “divine nature,” when they get to heaven. (2 Pet. 1:4; 1 Cor. 15:49; Phil. 3:21) They have already gotten a start toward this by the spiritual “new birth” while yet on earth. (1 Pet. 1:3, 4) This, however, does not mean that they will be coequal with God. Nor does Jesus’ then having “divine nature” with them mean that for him. The translation “a god” at John 1:1 does no injustice to Greek grammar. Nor does it conflict with the worship of the One whom the resurrected Jesus Christ called “my God” and to whom Jesus himself is subject.—John 20:17 Rev. 3:2, 12; 1 Cor. 11:3; 15:28. As for Hebrews 1:8-12, take a look at verse 9: "THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS." However, believers in the Trinity prefer the Authorized Version, or King James Version, which renders Hebrews 1:8 this way: “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever.” Thus, they feel that Jesus is shown to be the same as Almighty God. Why is this not correct? First, note the context. In many translations, either in the main text or in the margin, Hebrews 1:9 reads, “God, your God, anointed you.” This makes it clear that the one addressed in verse eight is not God, but one who worships God and is anointed by him. Why would God annoint himself? Secondly, it should be noted that Hebrews 1:8, 9 is a quotation from Psalm 45:6, 7, which originally was addressed to a human king of Israel. Surely the writer of this psalm did not think that this human king was Almighty God and neither did the writer of Hebrews think that Jesus was Almighty God. It is scarcely possible that God [‘Elo·him´, “God”] in the original can be addressed to the Jesus. Thus on the whole it seems best to adopt in the first clause the rendering: God is Thy throne (or, Thy throne is God), that is ‘Thy kingdom is founded upon God.' With good reason, therefore, the New World Translation and a number of other translations render Hebrews 1:8 as, “God is your throne.” (See An American Translation, Moffatt; also the marginal reading in American Standard Version, Revised Standard Version and The New English Bible.) This makes it clear that the “Son,” Jesus Christ, has a God who is higher than he is. ----------- One text that totally disproves the trinity: John 1:18- No man has EVER seen God at any time. People saw Jesus but NEVER God. |
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