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1 | Whose are you? | John 1:12 | Robert Nicholson | 69460 | ||
Greetings brother Ray: It is wonderful to exhange thoughts on the things of God. I enjoy your style which causes one to think even if it is sometimes outside the box. I agree with your first point that we can be enlightened to the truth of the gospel and yet not accept or receive Christ as our Saviour and Lord. I think I understand where you are coming from with the spirit and Spirit. Consider Romans 8: 8-10 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. ( notice that in the above verse we have Spirit 3 ways a)in the Spirit b)Spirit of God c) Spirit of Christ And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. (If Christ be in you) But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. ( "The Spirit of him that raised up Jesus") (" shall quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you") Dear brother as you are probably aware I believe in the three persons of the Godhead. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. I am somewhat confused at this point. 20 years ago I thought I understood everything! I have looked at it this way. The Father who is Spirit sent the Son to be the Saviour of the World. Before his death Jesus told his disciples that he would not leave them comfortless. "I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter (advocate), that he may abide with you forever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you" John 14:16-17 We read of the work of the coming Comforter in John 16:8-11 (towards the world and v.13-15 (to his disciples" Ray is the Comforter the Holy Spirit? I find that the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ and the Holy Spirit appear to blend together. However, I believe that Christ dwells with us by his Spirit. As I write this statement in my mind I see the Spirit of Christ and the Holy Spirit as the same. Regarding salvation: Do we not believe that God calls sinners to Christ as he strives with them by his Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not speak of himself, but of Christ John 16:13-15 Brother Ray, I will stop for now and await your response. In Christ Robert |
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2 | Whose are you? | John 1:12 | Ray | 69550 | ||
Hi Robert, Thank you for your post, but you have made me "burn the midnight oil" and work into the night. Just when I get comfortable with my "penciled in" personal copy, someone like you causes me to get out the eraser. So as you have said, you think you have everything figured out and then you learn something new; something that makes us rethink our position. But we know that God is not a God of confusion; we will find out what we need to know. I certainly think of the triune God as blended together. We can not, nor do I think that we should try to departmentalize the Persons. I think of them as one God, one Lord, one Spirit, but each One is a blend. For Romans 8:9-14 I have all the occurances of Spirit capitalized in my persona l copy. For verse 11, I think of His (Spirit) who indwells us as being the Spirit of God the Father. But I have done some erasing tonight and penciled in some new choices of patterns for my personal copy. I have considered for the first time tonight changing the Spirit of truth into the Spirit of Truth. With that now penciled in, I offer this comparison for what it means to receive (His) fullness. John 1:16, "For of (His) fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ." John 15:11, "These things I have spoken to you so that (My) joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full. This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you." Good night for now. From the heart, Ray |
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