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1 | Whose are you? | John 1:12 | Ray | 69361 | ||
Hi Jeff, I have a question before you put an end to the discussion. I know that you, like Paul, wonder which would be best; to be in heaven or to stay here and witness for your Lord. Whichever is God's will, we are not our own. We are God's possession for Him to do with as He wants; it is not up to us. I was looking at "God's own possesion" today. Whose are you? In who's image are you? Ephesians 1:14, "who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God/'s own possession, to the praise of His glory. For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord (Jesus) which exists among you, and your love for all the saints, do not cease giving thanks for you, while making mention of you in my prayers;..." 1 Peter 2:9, "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God/'s own posssession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; for you once were a people, but now you are a people of (God); you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy." Titus 2:11-14, "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God/ and Savior, Christ (Jesus); who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds." Genesis 1:27, "And God created man in His own image, in the image of God/ He created him; male and female He created them. And (God) blessed them;..." Jeff, I don't accept your (.). Talk to us, friend. From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Whose are you? | John 1:12 | Ray | 69362 | ||
Hi Ray, What??????????? Sorry about this question people, but I misread the significance or importance of Jeff's (.) Seeing that Jeff is very much alive and well let me ask this question for everyone. When we receive the Light and become a child of God, what does it mean to believe in Him? What does it mean to receive His fullness? John 1:16 John 1:12, "But as many as received Him/, to them He gave the right to become the children of God, even to those who believe in (His) name." From the heart, Ray |
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3 | Whose are you? | John 1:12 | Robert Nicholson | 69372 | ||
Greetings brother Ray: It seems that at times human language fails to grasp eternal trues. You have asked "When we receive the Light and become a child of God, what does it mean to believe in Him? What does in mean to receive his fulness? John 1:16 My question is: do we receive the Light or does the Light shine into our darkened souls to reveal to us our need? In v. 9 "That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world" I will attempt to explain what I am trying to get at. We know from other scriptures that we do not become a child of God until we experience the new birth or are born from above. However, we know that before we are born again the Spirit of God reveals to us our need of Christ. We are made to realize that we are accountable to God. I believe that at this point the truth of John 1:12 comes into view. We are shown our need and God by his Spirit presents Christ as the only answer for our need. "But to as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become the children of God, even to those who believe in (His) name". Would you agree that receive and believe have the same meaning? I receive, I believe, I accept or I rest upon the record that God has given me regarding the work of Christ, at that moment the Holy Spirit indwells my heart and I am born from above. "And of his fulness have all we received (those who have believed on him) and grace for grace" John 1:16 I believe this refers back to verse 14 "(and we beheld his glory, as the glory of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. I noticed a reference to Col 1:19 "That it please the Father that in him should all fulness dwell" Is the thought that when we are born again that Christ dwells in us by his Spirit through his grace which is infinite in Christ? God bless you Robert |
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4 | Whose are you? | John 1:12 | Ray | 69445 | ||
Hi Robert, Thank you for your post and the deep thinking that you have done. Isn't it good to think on the things of God. Your point about Christ being the only answer is right on. So lets think some more together about what it means to receive Him. 1) I don't agree that to receive and to believe have the same meaning. Webster's dictionary says that receive "may or may not imply the consent of the recipient [to receive a gift, a blow, etc.] All people can be enlightened or receive the record that God has given us, that is , the Holy Bible. In other words, know ABOUT Jesus. But we may or may not accept Him or believe Him as the Son of God and as our Savior. 2) Can you give me the Scripture where it talks of "indwelling" of the Holy Spirit? 3) I also believe that "(His) fullness" refers to verse fourteen; but it refers back to believing in "(His) name" also. For as you have said, we have been born from above (not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God). Not only does it refer back to (His) name and the only begotten from the Father; it refers ahead to Jesus Christ, the only begotten God. Jesus explained Him and they looked forward to the (Prophet). 4) And the world was made through (Him). John 1:10 5) And He is the image of the invisible (God), the FIRST-BORN of all creation. Colossians 1:15 6) And He is the (Beginning), the FIRST-BORN from the dead; so that He might come to have first place in everything. For all the fullness was pleased to dwell in Him. Colossians 1:18,19 I think that when Christ dwells in us, that doesn't mean that the Holy Spirit TOTALLY dwells in us; for Colossians says that the fullness dwelled in Him. That is one reason why I put holy spirit in lower case when talking about being filled with the holy spirit. Christ indwells us, the Holy Spirit comes upon us, but we are filled with the holy spirit. That's the way I see it. Your turn, brother. We might look at 1 Corinthians 2:10 if you want to consider "that Christ dwells in us by His Spirit" (Or, spirit?) in regard to your last paragraph's capitalization. From the heart, Ray |
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5 | Whose are you? | John 1:12 | Robert Nicholson | 69460 | ||
Greetings brother Ray: It is wonderful to exhange thoughts on the things of God. I enjoy your style which causes one to think even if it is sometimes outside the box. I agree with your first point that we can be enlightened to the truth of the gospel and yet not accept or receive Christ as our Saviour and Lord. I think I understand where you are coming from with the spirit and Spirit. Consider Romans 8: 8-10 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. ( notice that in the above verse we have Spirit 3 ways a)in the Spirit b)Spirit of God c) Spirit of Christ And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. (If Christ be in you) But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. ( "The Spirit of him that raised up Jesus") (" shall quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you") Dear brother as you are probably aware I believe in the three persons of the Godhead. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. I am somewhat confused at this point. 20 years ago I thought I understood everything! I have looked at it this way. The Father who is Spirit sent the Son to be the Saviour of the World. Before his death Jesus told his disciples that he would not leave them comfortless. "I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter (advocate), that he may abide with you forever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you" John 14:16-17 We read of the work of the coming Comforter in John 16:8-11 (towards the world and v.13-15 (to his disciples" Ray is the Comforter the Holy Spirit? I find that the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ and the Holy Spirit appear to blend together. However, I believe that Christ dwells with us by his Spirit. As I write this statement in my mind I see the Spirit of Christ and the Holy Spirit as the same. Regarding salvation: Do we not believe that God calls sinners to Christ as he strives with them by his Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not speak of himself, but of Christ John 16:13-15 Brother Ray, I will stop for now and await your response. In Christ Robert |
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6 | Whose are you? | John 1:12 | Ray | 69550 | ||
Hi Robert, Thank you for your post, but you have made me "burn the midnight oil" and work into the night. Just when I get comfortable with my "penciled in" personal copy, someone like you causes me to get out the eraser. So as you have said, you think you have everything figured out and then you learn something new; something that makes us rethink our position. But we know that God is not a God of confusion; we will find out what we need to know. I certainly think of the triune God as blended together. We can not, nor do I think that we should try to departmentalize the Persons. I think of them as one God, one Lord, one Spirit, but each One is a blend. For Romans 8:9-14 I have all the occurances of Spirit capitalized in my persona l copy. For verse 11, I think of His (Spirit) who indwells us as being the Spirit of God the Father. But I have done some erasing tonight and penciled in some new choices of patterns for my personal copy. I have considered for the first time tonight changing the Spirit of truth into the Spirit of Truth. With that now penciled in, I offer this comparison for what it means to receive (His) fullness. John 1:16, "For of (His) fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ." John 15:11, "These things I have spoken to you so that (My) joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full. This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you." Good night for now. From the heart, Ray |
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