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1 | Who is Jesus? | Matt 24:28 | Morant61 | 23652 | ||
Greetings Ross! The point I made was simply that the word "cult" depends upon your perspective. Here is the ultimate test of a cult: Who do you say Jesus is? Is He God? Is He eternal? Is He the only way to salvation? Is He just one among many prophets or imans? Your answer to these questions will make it perfectly clear if Baha'i is a cult or not! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Who is Jesus? | Matt 24:28 | LisaMarie | 23699 | ||
That is entirely unfair, Tim. You can't define a cult based on Christian terms. Many non Christians believe US to be a cult. Yes many cults have charismatic leaders but that is NOT what defines them. Cults are defined by "separatism" and extreme faith. Obsessive beliefs. Separatism meaning they withdraw from the world as a whole. Communal living as a way to protect their fragile and fanatical belief systems from external influence which may poke holes in their faith. Jim Jones founded a cult and he LOVED God. The Hale Bop people were a cult. Separatism, castration and suicide. You can't label people a cult because they don't believe Jesus is Lord. Remember Christians are still being killed today. Martyred for Christ. Not by cults. By governmental fanatic, by religious fanatics and even by each other. Please, just let it go. Lisa |
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3 | Who is Jesus? | Matt 24:28 | Morant61 | 23700 | ||
Greetings Lisa! 1 John 2:22 says, "Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son." Any group which claims to be a Christian but rejects the Lordship of Christ is by definition a cult! Cults usually have strange leaders and they usually have other scriptures, but these are not the defining marks of a cult. The defining mark is who they say Jesus is! The Baha'i cult sprang out of Islam. It rejects that Christ is God. It says that he was only one of many prophets or imans. The current iman, Baha'u'llah, is the newest source of revelation. They reject the Trinity, the Diety of Christ, the bodily resurrection of Christ, the future return of Christ, salvation through Christ alone, and just about every other major Christian doctrine. In all seriousness, if we left the labeling to the groups themselves there would be NO CULTS! So, no I won't let it go! People who are in cults are lost and need Christ, who is the Only Way to salvation. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Who is Jesus? | Matt 24:28 | LisaMarie | 23702 | ||
I never said to leave the labeling to the supposed cult. I said you can't define a cult by belief in Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Get your dictionary, lambie. Look up the definition of cult. No use of Jesus there. However, the following CULTS are completely 100 percent devoted ENTIRELY to a life with Christ: Masons Eastern Stars Scottish Rites Bodies DeMolay Rainbow Girls Job's Daughters Muslims are not cultish. Taliban is cultish. Fanatical Muslims. Buddhists are not cultish. Soka Gakkai International is cultish. Fanatical Buddhists. Christians are not cultish but the above mentioned fanatics are. What are you trying to accomplish? This guy is here. On a bible study message board. Rather than riducule why can't we show him OUR shining example of a life with Christ? Lisa |
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5 | Who is Jesus? | Matt 24:28 | srbaegon | 23703 | ||
Real life example........................... My wife was in Rainbow. She can tell you from first-hand experience, it has nothing to do with Christ except to borrow a name. Steve |
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6 | Who is Jesus? | Matt 24:28 | LisaMarie | 23707 | ||
My brother was a DeMolay. My grandmother and Eastern Star, my grandfather a mason. His father was at one time a seminarian in Spain. All very Christ driven. When my brother was "inducted" they had an altar, a chalice a bible, came out in capes just like the original Knights and asked each of the boys "Do you believe in God and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior?" Each boy answered yes and that was that. The Masons are a surviving faction of the Knights Templar, who, at the time of their persecution were lead by Jacques DeMolay. They were the original knights of Christ. They gained too much power and had to be stopped. During their persecution, surviving members escaped to Scotland where they became Masons and Scottish Rites Bodies. It's rumored that they have the ark. Supposedly found during excavation in Jerusalem way back in the beginning when there were only a handful of them. Unhealthy cults to be sure. Not exactly an uplifting Thanksgiving chat we're having, eh? Hugs, Lisa |
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7 | Who is Jesus? | Matt 24:28 | Reformer Joe | 23825 | ||
Then please explain to me Hindu and Buddhist and Muslim Masonic Lodges, where instead of the Bible we see the Baghavad Gita and the Qu'ran. These people are considered "brothers" because they all view the "Great Architect of the Universe" in their own way. They do exist, Lisa. Are they Christians? By the way, I would not label Freemasonry as a cult because I do believe that it is possible to be a Christian and a Mason. You just have to be pretty confused about the Masonic Lodge and/or a lot of the Bible to do so. And, yes, Freemasonry is spiritually unhealthy, since the heart of its teachings is not our unworthiness before a holy God and our need for forgiveness by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. While some Masons may hold to that truth, it is not a truth taught by the lodge. --Joe! |
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8 | Who is Jesus? | Matt 24:28 | LisaMarie | 24209 | ||
Hi again Joe! I can't explain the variations on Masonic Lodges. Very interesting! No, I don't believe they are Christian at all since they don't hold Christ as their savior. Buddhists don't read the B. Gita or the Quran. They read the sutras (of which there isn't one book). What would they have in place of it? Can you recommend a book on it? The masonic variations I mean. Curiouser and Curiouser, Lisa |
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