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1 | purgatory is it true? | Matt 22:32 | Emmaus | 39264 | ||
Ed, I won't try anymore. You are stuck on something, (repitition of a particular paryer)that is not even an intregal part of the sacrament, to the exclusion of the major element, God's grace. I would say you can't see the forest for the tree. I have done my best and will let this subject rest. Emmaus |
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2 | purgatory is it true? | Matt 22:32 | EdB | 39325 | ||
Emmaus I guess this is why there is chocolate and vanilla ice cream. I see pentance as nothing more than a form of punishment. You see it as works glorifing grace??? To me that is impossible! To you it is very possible. I'll stick with my chocolate and you can have vanilla and don't try to tell me you have chocolate too!!! :-) EdB |
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3 | purgatory is it true? | Matt 22:32 | Emmaus | 60996 | ||
Ed, I know this thread heading is ancient and we were actually talking about penance in sacramental confession, but I was reading a bible study on James today that made me think back to our convrsation for some reason. It does not address directly what we were discussing. I am not necessarily trying to reopen the thread. I just feel moved by the Spirit to share it with you since you came to mind. I tried to send just the link but it is a back page off the home page of a site and had too many symbols illegal in the forum's program. "James "Pleasure, Piety and Penance" 4:1-10 Study 7 Introduction In the last lesson we discovered that the fruit of false wisdom was disorder brought on by selfish ambition and jealousy. In this lesson, James sets before us an important question – is our goal in life to submit to God’s will or to spend our life fulfilling our own desires? James warns us that, if pleasure is the principle we choose to live by, there will be divisions and quarreling among us. James first identifies unfulfilled desires as the source of worldly antagonism, then draws a correlation between desires and behavior when he states, “You desire and do not have; so you kill. And you covet and cannot obtain; so you fight and wage war.” The term “desires” or “pleasures” is the Greek word hedonon from which the English word “hedonism” comes. Hedonism is that philosophy which views pleasure as the chief goal in life. James tells his readers that this passion resides in their hearts, waging a war to fulfill desire (4:1-3). He then strongly rebukes the reader for their spiritual unfaithfulness. Rather than yielding to worldly desires, James urges the reader to yield to the desire of the Spirit, which dwells in them (4:4-6). The process of yielding to the Spirit takes place by submitting to God and resisting the devil, accompanied by thorough repentance and cleansing of ones heart (4:7-10)." Catholic Scripture Study www.e3mil.com Emmaus |
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4 | purgatory is it true? | Matt 22:32 | EdB | 61025 | ||
Emmaus I must have missed something. I understood and agreed with the lesson in James. What I don't understand is how repeating going through the Rosary twice and repeating 5 hail Mary's at the instructions of a Priest is any different than when I was in school and had to write 100 times "I will not talk while Mrs. Johnson is talking. To me it is punishment by works. EdB |
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5 | purgatory is it true? | Matt 22:32 | Emmaus | 61028 | ||
Ed, I am not so sure that penance undertaken willing is a "work" in the sense that you mean. Perhaps it all fits into the conversation I just had with John Reformed about the difference between "works of the law" and "works in Christ." Anyway, enough said. We have covered this ground already. You just came to mind when I read it. Emmaus |
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6 | purgatory is it true? | Matt 22:32 | EdB | 61037 | ||
Emmaus Thanks for thinking about me and anytime you come across anything that you think would help me understand penance please share it with me. Your Brother EdB |
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