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1 | should I avoid the appearance of evil? | Matt 18:6 | Theo-Minor | 126415 | ||
Have you ever read, "Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of a harlot? God forbid. What? Know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh." [1 Cor 6:15-16] Or, "And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." [Gen 2:23-24] And here this other one, "And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother." [Gen 38:9] And then this one, "She shall put the ramaint from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that, thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife." [Deut 21:13] And this one as well, "If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her." [Deut 25:5] Fornication: porneia (por-ni-ah); from porneuo (porn-yoo-o): harlotry (including adultery and incest). porneuo (porn-yoo-o); from porne (por-nay): to act the harlot; indulge unlawful lust; practice idolatry. porne (por-nay); fem. of pornos (por-nos): a strumpet; fig. an idolater. pornos (por-nos): from pernemi (to sell): a (male) prostitute (as venal), i.e. a debauchee (libertine). Fornication is not sex outside of marriage, as it is currently taught. Fornication is prostitution or debauchery. If one man and one woman are living together in a genuinely monogamous relationship, they are not guilty of this particular act. Point of fact, the real sin would be the leaving and finding a new partner, which amounts to adultery. The real marriage in truth occurs when the man "goes in unto her." The act of conjugal joining IS the marriage, because the two have become one flesh. Sex outside of marriage with a boyfriend/girlfriend is not a sin, because there is no such thing as sex outside of marriage. The sex makes it a marriage. Cheating, leaving (except for certain acceptable reasons), or whoring yourself out puts you in the position of adultery, fornication, and other infractions. The answer to the question is yes. If they are willing, and their hearts are right, they can be baptized. It isn't anyone's business what goes on between you behind closed doors, unless said acts are grossly immoral in the sense of prostitution (in which case, we should uphold one another, etc., and it would be their business to keep you right with God and to admonish you to turn away from sin. We are our brother's keepers). Go and be baptized. Get married in the eyes of men by the standards of tradition, because if they see your situation as sin, then you should strive to NOT be a stumbling block to others. I hope I've helped you with a bit of truth. It defies modern doctrine, but it is Biblically sound, despite the anticipated opinions I shortly expect because of the radical nature of this post. Truth does not depend upon popular opinions. If you can wrap your conscience around the truth of the idea, you will find a new and interesting sense of freedom from the guilt and condemnation people would surely lay on you for your chosen lifestyle. Theo-Minor P.S. If this question is in regard to someone else, and you are just asking on their behalf, relate the information. |
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2 | should I avoid the appearance of evil? | Matt 18:6 | Hank | 126459 | ||
Theo-Minor: Congratulations! Having read thousands of posts on this Forum, I nominate this one of yours as being among the top for unadulterated hogwash. As one who claims (in your user profile) to be well versed in Scripture, you are obviously in need of remedial versing. Trashy theories such as the one you have advanced have no place on a Christian forum. The best thing that can be said of a post like this is that it is a disgrace. So absurd and outrageous is it that it merits no further response. The thread will be restricted shortly, and any further posts of this stripe will not be tolerated and will be reported as abusive use of this Bible forum. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Am I wrong? | Matt 18:6 | Stultis the Fool | 126463 | ||
Hank... Interesting methodology. Is this how everyone who is presumed wrong is taught the truth? I am re-posting a reply I made to another part of this thread, and adding a couple questions: "I would like to add that my posts to this subject do NOT advocate the taking of the union of marriage lightly... On the other hand, I certainly imply that we do not take seriously enough the act of intercourse. Here it is dismissed as sin quite casually, but I believe the scriptures show that the implications of the act are much more far-reaching then some would like to admit." I assume you can refute what is being posted here with some form of specific scripture. Am I wrong? |
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4 | Am I wrong? | Matt 18:6 | Searcher56 | 126488 | ||
Sometime we believe it is truth ... sometimes it is tradition, even centuries old ... other times it is trends. But if it is not truth, it is trash. Theo-Minor has been proven wrong. One is called husband and wife BEFORE they have sex. |
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5 | Am I wrong? | Matt 18:6 | Theo-Minor | 126491 | ||
That is just not the case. There are plenty of examples of a man going in to a woman, and taking her, and she being his wife. Your comment is motivated by opinion. It is not factual. Further, it doesn't address things like concubines. Theo-Minor |
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6 | Am I wrong? | Matt 18:6 | Searcher56 | 126493 | ||
Show me ONE example of a man going in to a woman, and taking her, and (then) she being his wife. |
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7 | Am I wrong? | Matt 18:6 | Country Girl | 126551 | ||
I don't remember an actual example of this being done with names, places or scripture. All I can do is quote from God's word: Ex 22:16 "If a man entices a virgin who is not betrothed, and lies with her, he shall surely pay the bride-price for her to be his wife. 17If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money according to the bride-price of virgins. Sometimes it's difficult if not impossible to understand God's wisdom. The bottom line is "We just say Yessir." Blessings to you. |
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