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1 | should I avoid the appearance of evil? | Matt 18:6 | justme | 126445 | ||
Theo-Minor: Oh my! My wife and I read your response and we were stunned! What you have stated is rediculous if not HERESY! You wrote, "Sex outside of marriage with a boyfriend/girlfriend is not a sin, because there is no such thing as sex outside of marriage." And yet you also wrote "Their real marriage in truth occurs when the man "goes unto her", the act of conjugal joining IS the marriage, because the two have become one flesh." Your statements are outrageously flawed!!! Fornication, PRENEIA is illicit sexual intercourse. At least according to W. E. Vine in his book AN EXPOSITORY DICTIONARY OF NEW TESTAMENT WORDS. This would include sex between any boy and girl who are not married to each other. To suggest that sex between boyfriend and girlfriend is not a sin is not Biblical in any way shape or form. How do you come to such a conclusion? Read 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 and this states beyond any doubt and very specfically as to what is immoral. Am I to believe this Scripture doesn't apply to today? If marriage only IS a marriage when intercourse is possible then please tell me what do you tell some young married man who has lost his legs and manhood in a war, like the war we are in now? Is your incuation that they are no longer married? The answer to the couples question as to should they be baptised is most certainly and positively NO!! How can their hearts be right when they are living together? This is not living as HOLY people of God, and Scripture tells us we are to live HOLY LIVES! I say, oh yes it is OUR business how people conduct their lives, in their work, play, and what they do and with whom behind their bedroom doors. When some one comes to be baptized they are saying I have repented, and turned away from sin, and want to follow Jesus and His instructions. This is not saying perfection, but turning away from immorality is certianly one area that is expected. Remember that they are coming to the church to be presented as repenting believing Christians to be baptized. You are correct we are not to be a stumbling block for others. Marriage is not mans standard of tradition, but is the standard the Lord has made, it is not only sin in mans eyes, but is by Gods standard, Hebrews 13:4. You seem to contradict your self several times, one time you say sex with boyfriend and girlfriend is not a sin, and then say sexual intercourse is marriage. You say your truth is "Biblically sound" yet you anticipate reactions to your "radical nature of this post". The theology you advocate in not new or radical, it is as appalling as when Eve heard the mixture of truth and lies from satan tempting her. Finally the promise of freedom "If you can wrap your conscience around the truth of the idea, you will find a new and interesting sense of freedon from guilt and condemnation people would surely lay on you for your chosen lifestyle." Your advice is as slimey as a Missouri Catfish caught in a septic tank. Long time ago satan promised freedom that made Adam and Eve become as wise as God. Remember that freedom and how free they were, to sin? Theo-Minor, I think you need to "Major-ly" reconsider your theology and doctrine. I should sign this Theo-Major, but I am like always.... justme |
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2 | should I avoid the appearance of evil? | Matt 18:6 | kalos | 126454 | ||
Justme: Before today I thought I had "heard it all". I was wrong. Grace to you, kalos |
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3 | should I avoid the appearance of evil? | Matt 18:6 | Emmaus | 126457 | ||
kalos, It is interesting to note that at time when secular governments have abondoned the recognition of "common law marriage" let alone tarditional Christian marriage, we have people in the Church venue adopting and advocating the idea. Has the church become a Las Vegas wedding (and baptism)chapel that people can rent if and when they feel in the mood, with the right to feel aggrieved if the chapel is not open for business on their terms. What is the difference between a contact and a covenant? Committment to the other party and the community, because the community is also effected by the success or failure of the marriage and family. A contact is an exchange of goods and services, like protituiton (a cash based system)or living in sin which is more based on a semi-long term barter system. A covenant is a mutal irrevocable giving of the entire self without any reservation, which has blessings and curses associated with the keeping or failing to keep the covenant. Marriage is a covenant. All one has to do is look at our society to see the obvious ill effects of the absence or breakdown of marriage on the whole community. Common Sense 101. It (common sense) existed even before the Bible. Emmaus |
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4 | should I avoid the appearance of evil? | Matt 18:6 | Stultis the Fool | 126461 | ||
I would like to add that my posts to this subject do NOT advocate the taking of the union of marriage lightly... On the other hand, I certainly imply that we do not take seriously enough the act of intercourse. Here it is dismissed as sin quite casually, but I believe the scriptures show that the implications of the act are much more far-reaching then some would like to admit. | ||||||
5 | should I avoid the appearance of evil? | Matt 18:6 | Theo-Minor | 126464 | ||
I gave good examples. I backed it up with examples. I expected opinions. No one has refuted anything. A man and a woman come together and they are one flesh. This is a covenant. No one has demonstrated that such a union does NOT constitute a marriage. No one has demonstrated that I am wrong. This has been even more nasty than I ever expected from Christians. I have been ridiculed, insulted, called names, rebuked, and otherwise ostracized ... and without a shred of substantiation to support any of this behavior. Ban the topic. That's what you do with all the others. I expect it of you. We wouldn't want to discuss the credibility of an alternate point of view. This is more like an opinion forum. Well heap another slab of pride on my plate, thank you very much. I've never been treated so poorly, and every one of you that insulted me the way you did, I have grave doubts of your true Christianity. Try reading the scriptures. And while you're at it, explain why David had both wives AND concubines, and why God would have given him many more things "like these" to have prevented the one act of adultery. You people are a disgrace to treat another the way you have. And I forgive you. Theo-Minor |
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6 | Sex only after called husband and wife. | Matt 18:6 | Searcher56 | 126475 | ||
Theo-Minor, show me one case a couple was NOT married (called husband and wife) BEFORE they had sex. We will not tolerate any misuse of Scripture. If we don't stand against error, we should be ashamed. By the way David did commit adultery when he had sex with Bathsheba, and Nathan scolded him for it. Searcher | ||||||
7 | Sex only after called husband and wife. | Matt 18:6 | Stultis the Fool | 126477 | ||
Searcher... When you read such as "he went in unto her," are you confused about why he "went in unto her," or what went on when he "went in unto her," or in what order of actions the scriptures conclude that such marriages took place? | ||||||
8 | Sex only after called husband and wife. | Matt 18:6 | Theo-Minor | 126480 | ||
I concur with this. He goes in unto her, and knows her, and she is his wife. Theo-Minor |
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9 | Sex only after called husband and wife. | Matt 18:6 | Searcher56 | 126484 | ||
WRONG ... show me one case where this is true. If fact, Eve was called Adam's wife (Gen 3:20) before they had sex (Gen 4:1). Genesis 4:17 says Cain had relations with his wife, not had relations so became his wife. Should I go on? |
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