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1 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | Hank | 120445 | ||
Angel: __"...little sense in filling the Bible with forumulas and theories that would be well beyond the abilities of the ancient people of Israel and the early Church"__ True. And I'm sure that you don't mean to imply that God's word, in any event, deals in theories. Modern man's basic abilities are not really superior to those of the ancients. We haven't learned much really. not about the things that count. We have better obstetrical care and yet kill more babies by design than the ancients lost by natural causes. We have developed sophisticated weaponry that allows us to kill more people in an hour than the mightiest army of old could kill in a month. But we continue still to make the same stupid mistakes, to follow idols, to see ourselves as the boss of the universe, to exalt man before God. Our moral compass is no better than any that the ancients used. We do what seems right in our own eyes still. We murder our own countrymen in the streets and our own children in the womb. We honor the gods of material success and avarice and will readily lie, cheat, and steal to get what we want. We wink at divorce, accept adultery as a way of life. and dare not speak out against pre-marital sex and other forms of immorality. We have decreed that the perversion of homosexuality is not only legal but something to be celebrated as an alternative lifestyle. We teach our children the theory of evolution as if it were a scientific fact, yet forbid the teaching of creationism on the grounds that it is a religious myth, and therefore teaching it violates the Constitution. The fact that Darwin's theory is no more in unison with modern science than it is with Scripture doesn't daunt the secular humanists who control our school system. Even the churches, many of them, have replaced the pure gospel of Jesus Christ with the self-serving heresy of the gospel of health and wealth, as if to say that our blessed Lord gave His life so that we could all enjoy physcial health and be rolling in dough. These churches have lost their identity as the body of Christ and have become indistinguishable from the world. --Hank | ||||||
2 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | JCrichton | 120453 | ||
Hi, Hank! In no way was I inferring that the Bible is incomplete or lacking. I simply attempted to express that for God to have filled the Bible with scientific terms and theories (pi, law of relativity, or gravity, mach speed, calculus, artificial inteligence, nuclear submarine, rocket fuel...) would have been terms that would be too foreing for Israel to engage themselves with, and, what is more important, none of them would bring them (and us) closer to knowing God since only through His Grace do we come to know Him! My explanation was thusly made because I have come across many posts which basically denote a scientific-philosophycal perspective. I attempted to explain that we cannot seek God through sicence, philosophy or any other human "wisdom;" as 1 Corinthians 2:10 attests: to us, though, God has given revelation through the Spirit, for the Spirit explores the depths of everything, even the depths of God. God Bless! Angel |
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3 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | Sir Pent | 120481 | ||
An alternative view................................................... Hi Angel, I agree with you that only through God's grace can we come to know Him. However, I would disagree that God doesn't use things like science and philosophy to bring people to Himself. Romans 1:20 says "For since the creation of the world His (God's) invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they (all humans) are without excuse." Luke 19:40 says "But Jesus answered, 'I tell you, if these (My followers) become silent, the stones will cry out!'" These are just two examples of places where the Bible supports the idea that nature (science) can and is used by God to bring people to know Himself. Please type the number 22206 into the "Quick Search" box at the top right corner of the screen. This will take you to a series of posts that I made once explaining how one can discover who God is from observing His creation. |
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4 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | JCrichton | 120501 | ||
Hi! If you note my original post, I stated that God did not fill the Bible with... I never claimed that God did not use science, philosophy, poetry, or other means of human intellectaul abilities--He even used astronomy to gather the three wise men about Jesus' manger! My response was to clarify that though the Bible is not encompassing of all the present terminologies and ideas, there are no short comings in God's revelations. Rather it is our limited and finite abilities that do not allow us to see the Truth: i.e.: though there is no mention of crack-cocane, spanish fly, angel dust, S and M, etc... the Bible teaches that Yahweh demands that we come to Him with pure heart, a pure mind, and a pure body. There's no teaching in the Bible about cigarettes... but we know they kill... and we know that we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit... we know that we have been bought at a price... we know that if we destroy God's Temple God will destroy us! ever since the creation of the world, the invisible existence of God and his everlasting power have been clearly seen by the mind's understanding of created things. And so these people have no excuse: they knew God and yet they did not honour him as God or give thanks to him, but their arguments became futile and their uncomprehending minds were darkened. While they claimed to be wise, in fact they were growing so sutpid that they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for an imitation, for the image of a mortan human being, or of birds, or animals, or crawling things. (Romans 1:20-23) In this passage it is evident that Paul is referencing nature as a source of God's revelation of His Divinity! Just look at the substance we call snow: if we capture a single drop (or whatever the scientific term may be) we will find that it has an intricate geometrical design! A design that a mere accident in space could not have brought into perfect existence! I hope this finally clarifies my position about God, the Bible, Science and Nature. God Bless! Angel PS: Please forgive me for not using your tag--I do not know its origins but it's a phonic equivalent to the ancient name of the anti-Christ. |
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5 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | Sir Pent | 120510 | ||
Clarification......................................................... Hi Angel, I'm glad that you seem to agree that God does reveal Himself to us even through nature (science) and other fields like philosophy and astronomy. The reason why I thought you did not believe that, was your statement that "we cannot seek God through sicence, philosophy or any other human wisdom". I am glad that we are now in agreement, and I forgive you for not wanting to use my screen name. When I first came to the forum many years ago, several people also were concerned about it. However, if you'll click on my name, my user profile explains it's origin. |
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6 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | JCrichton | 120516 | ||
Hi, Sir! Just logged back in when I noticed your reply... I have read your profile... I understand your reference to Mt 10:16, but I hope that since we are coming to terms (agreement in serving God) you would allow me to use the first part of your screen name--or the second, which ever you prefer--when addressing you. ...science: when we seek to know God by mere human intellect we ponder words, symbolisms, and terminologies while ignoring the spiritual. Scientist don't know why prayer works--some are coming around to it--but a peasant in the romotest part of the world who allows the Holy Spirit to enlighten him/her clearly understands the beauty and generosity of God as he/she trusted God to provide a meager day's worth of food for the family!--devoid of faith, science (as the saying goes) "can't touch this!" God Bless! Angel |
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7 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | Sir Pent | 120519 | ||
Personal Note......................................................... Hi Angel, I am fine with you calling me something other than my full screen name. I would most prefer if you called me by the one that you observe to allign with my posts. If you primarily consider my posts to be defending people and ideas that are right, then I would ask that you call me "Sir". If you primarily consider my posts to be "held in" and expressed with self-control, then I would ask that you call me "Pent". If you do not believe that my posts reflect either of these things, then perhaps you would prefer to just call me "Mark". P.S. I think that we are in agreement that if you subtract God from science, you lose all meaning and purpose. |
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8 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | JCrichton | 120542 | ||
"I think that we are in agreement that if you subtract God from science, you lose all meaning and purpose." Hi, Sir! Thank you for your understanding! And I do believe that science is one the Holy Spirit's beautiful gifts--for both our collective betterment and for exercising our minds! God Bless! Angel |
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