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1 | Robots? | Gen 4:7 | Reformer Joe | 79671 | ||
"It sounds like you and inhisname have found a point of agreement." Of course I agree with him on some points. I agree with you on some as well. "That sounds to me like somebody said something about being forced." No, being forced to do something implies a desire to do other than what one is forced to do. Sinners don't desire to follow God, but that doesn't mean that they are able to on their own, either (Romans 8:6-8). "I was persuaded and convinced by the word of God through which the Spirit works." I agree that the Spirit works through the word (see, told you we agreed sometimes!). What is the work of the Spirit through the word to which you are referring? What does He do? "God grants repentance? I thought God granted forgiveness when we repented." He does both: "He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins." --Acts 5:31 'When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life."' --Acts 11:18 "The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will." --2 Timothy 2:24-26 You wrote: "Peter told the crowd to repent... in order to receive the gift..." He certainly did. "I don't see him teaching the crowd to wait around until God granted repentance to some of them so that they could then obey." Neither do I. Those who were not granted repentance were not waiting around for it. "Under your view we are mere robots waiting for God to grant repentance and give us the power to obey." I thought I explained that erroneous perception in my last post. By the way, whose slave are you? "It must be very pleasing for God to have created a people that will worship him when he makes them." It pleases Him infinitely to redeem for Himself a people for His own possession from the mass of sinful humanity that has rebelled against His authority and holiness. --Joe! |
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2 | Robots? | Gen 4:7 | inhisname | 79879 | ||
This is why I have hope you are on my side. Sniper says this, "It must be very pleasing for God to have created a people that will worship him when he makes them." And you respond, It pleases Him infinitely to redeem for Himself a people for His own possession from the mass of sinful humanity that has rebelled against His authority and holiness. Right, it's not about us wanting to it's just that we do. That pleases God. I admit we have not choices because I admit we are what we are. If we are redeemed we don't choose because God already chose. We are on the same page. We are just saying it different. |
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3 | Robots? | Gen 4:7 | Reformer Joe | 79894 | ||
"We are on the same page. We are just saying it different." I assure you that we are not in agreement beyond saying that salvation is by faith alone. Saying that we are robots and that God does not expect obedience from the redeemed is not Calvinism and is perniciously unbiblical and would lead many people to think that they are saved when indeed they are not. I think there has been enough pseudo-conversation here. I will not be replying to your nonsense again. |
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4 | Robots? | Gen 4:7 | inhisname | 79979 | ||
"salvation is by faith alone." Everyone says this, everyone in the big spectrum. Sniper put something from Calvin on baptism but he believes salvation is by faith. I've seen some of snipers post. He says the same thing. You cannot say this because this is not different than what sniper says. How is your faith different than his faith? Mine is best I can tell the one that is faith only to the end. I'm consistent and you might not be. |
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