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1 | world vs age | Gen 1:5 | stjohn | 216033 | ||
Dear FTK One needs to be reading out of context in order to come up with this false teaching. Read verse 6 (in context) and I think you may find the word SCOURGES means SCOURGES, regardless of what you may think discipline should be interpreted as: by the way the root of discipline is disciple. And in order to become a disciple of Jesus you must fallow Him. John 16:33 says: "These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world." Please note, it says: "In the world you have tribulation" Also see: Matt 16:24, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23. Are you willing to take up your cross? Jesus requires this, and it is repeated three times in Scripture. What you are promulgating is false, and it has been a stumbling-block for many who watch too much TV and fallow the health-and-wealth, name-it-and-claim-it, crowd. :-( I'm afraid sir, that your interpretation of scripture is lacking sound exegesis. Sir, why don't you try your false teaching in a country where millions of Jesus' disciples are being persecuted and hacked to pieces by machete wilding hooligans-!? They won't buy it, and we are not buying this kind of ridiculous nonsense either. John |
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2 | world vs age | Gen 1:5 | FTK | 216036 | ||
John:I certainly feel the scourging of your words. They are harsh and unkind. You can disagree without getting mad. The scripture you used is what I was trying to point out. You can read that scripture and find peace and solice in Christ or say you are not of Christ that you are of the world so you have tribulation. Even though he said, take courage, I have overcome the world.Once again Jesus took up his cross FOR us so that we don't have to. Now you can be thankful for the great gift he gave us, or try to take up your own self righteous cross. Perhaps you could tell me what it means to take up your cross? FTK | ||||||
3 | world vs age | Gen 1:5 | stjohn | 216040 | ||
Dear FTK, I'm very sorry, sir, if I offended you, and that you think my words are harsh and unkind. But sir, you have made some very absurd claims, about scripture, and what it means to be a Christian, with little but philosophical arguments and really no solid scriptural evidence to back up these claims. Some of which are rather presumptuous I must say. For instance, no one, sir, has said or made any claim that, we hear don't have peace in the Lord Jesus. FDK, my friend, I happen to know most of these fine Christians here at the Study Bible Forum, and I can say unequivocally that these wonderful Christian folks do indeed have peace, peace that truly surpasses all human understanding, and joy, yes, joy too, beyond what mere words can describe my friend. But I also know them well enough to know that, they, we, have had some tribulation. And sir, I also know that these fine Christian folks here are wise enough, and well studied in God's holy word enough, that they also know that our Lord God is sovereign in all things, and that nothing, but nothing, happens unless He, El Shaddai, God Almighty, allows it. (Prov 13:1) And sir, I think you may have let your feelings get the best of you, because I am not mad at you at all, by any means. FDK, others as well as myself are just trying to point out some pretty grievous errors in your interpretation of God's word. This is a sola Scriptura Bible study forum, and we hold that all claims about Scripture, that seem unsound, must be backed up with Scripture, Scripture by the way, that, you have yet to provide for the questions that have been asked you. You really shouldn't be too surprised that you are being challenged or discouraged that we ask you to back up your doctrine with scripture. Personally FDK, when I found the SBF, I was very glad that the folks here don't just except every doctrine that comes down the pike, and I've really learned a lot here. And I hope you do too. I'd like to point out too that this is not a debate forum so please keep your responses geared toward Scripture, and please avoid man made philosophy about feelings. Feelings, as you can see by your obviously mistaken presuppositions about the folks hear at SBF, can be quite deceptive. In closing; you asked what I think it means to; take up your cross? I don't have room or time to give a very definitive answer, so heres a link to a very scripturally sound, well respected, and trusted website. I hope this helps you in your studies. http://www.gotquestions.org/take-up-your-cross.html Shalom John |
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