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1 | Bible and evolution both? | Gen 1:1 | stjones | 19456 | ||
Hello again; Somewhere in this thread I said that it seems to me there must have been a moment when the first organisms carrying the complete human genome - Adam and Eve - were born and imbued with God's spirit. I agree that regardless of what specific mechanism God used to create them, they must have existed. I certainly do not think that God kept his hands off during the process. As to your second point (the danger of denying the historicity of later events in Genesis), I don't see that as a problem with theistic evolution as I understand it; it's problem with unbelief. For example, Abraham must have existed if for no other reason (and there are plenty of others) than that Jesus drew specific theological lessons from his father's covenant with him. The same is true of Adam and Eve. But if Jesus ever talked about the process of creating of the universe or the time it took to do it, none of the gospel writers recorded it. If it was unimportant to Jesus, then I'm not going to get too worked up over it myself. I hope the reader will keep in mind that I'm not attacking a literal interpretation or promoting theistic evolution. I just responded to the question of whether or not one can be a Christian and believe in (some form of) evolution. I still contend that agreement on whether Genesis 1-2 is history or parable is not an essential element of the Christian faith. Agreeing that God is the Creator certainly is essential. Peace and grace, Steve |
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2 | Bible and evolution both? | Gen 1:1 | Morant61 | 19461 | ||
Greetings Steve! I concede that point two might not be a problem for you. However, it is for many that I have read. However, point one still concerns me. You seem to be saying that two organism eventually became human, and they were Adam and Eve. However, Scripture specifically says that Adam and Eve were both created. Adam from the earth and Eve from his rib. Adam named creation. He lived without Eve for a time. Neither one was born! For your view to work, they would have been born and grew from some lower organism. Maybe the days were not 24 hours, but Genesis is clear about Adam and Eve. Eve wasn't even in existence until God took Adam's rib from him and created her. How would harmonize the historical events surrounding their lives with Theistic Evolution? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Bible and evolution both? | Gen 1:1 | stjones | 19468 | ||
Uh, can I just say that an infinite God worked out the details in a way my finite mind can't grasp? ;-) I'll admit that if I wanted to persuade others, I'd have to give your question a lot more thought. The fact is, I bet we'll all be surprised when we get to Heaven and see how completely we've misunderstood many things that seem crystal clear to us now. My impression is that not many Christians lose their faith by succumbing to the kind of progressive doubt/rejection you described. But I know a lot of people for whom a literal reading of Genesis 1-2 is a barrier to faith. When presented with a creation story whose mechanics seem patently false to them, they reject the fact of creation and the rest of the Bible as myth. Jesus never called us to be witnesses to creation, only to him. How tragic if we drive away even one non-believer by focusing on such non-essentials. Let's at least keep in the family. Peace and grace, Steve |
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4 | Bible and evolution both? | Gen 1:1 | Morant61 | 19477 | ||
Greetings Steve! There are a lot of things I can never wrap my mind around! :-) How does the universe go on and on forever? Maybe, it doesn't. Then, how does it just stop? As far as unbelievers are concerned, maybe Gen. 1-2 is part of what they have to accept by faith! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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