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1 | Did Jesus go to hell? | 1 Peter | Reformer Joe | 80505 | ||
"Tell me ONE time JESUS told someone they had to remain sick because it was God's sovereign will?" Why does Jesus have to say it in order for it to be true? There are a lot of Scriptural truths that Jesus Himself is not recorded as saying. Things that Jesus verbalized are not any more or less true than the Psalms or Pauls' teaching in 2 Corinthians. --Joe! |
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2 | Did Jesus go to hell? | 1 Peter | gracefull | 80506 | ||
Not one time did Jesus encounter in His entire 3 years of ministry, the first person who was supposed to be sick because God wanted to teach them something....That causes me to question everything in scripture pertaining to sickness and disease...There was such a major part of His ministry don't you believe He would have been wise enough to teach us that God makes us sick to teach us? No..I do not believe sickness is the chastening rod of God. God bless |
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3 | Did Jesus go to hell? | 1 Peter | Reformer Joe | 80531 | ||
Hi. You wrote: "Not one time did Jesus encounter in His entire 3 years of ministry, the first person who was supposed to be sick because God wanted to teach them something" The gospels show: 'As He passed by, He saw a man blind from birth. And His disciples asked Him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he would be born blind?" Jesus answered, "It was neither that this man sinned, nor his parents; but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him. We must work the works of Him who sent Me as long as it is day; night is coming when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the Light of the world." When He had said this, He spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and applied the clay to his eyes, and said to him, "Go, wash in the pool of Siloam" (which is translated, Sent). So he went away and washed, and came back seeing. Therefore the neighbors, and those who previously saw him as a beggar, were saying, "Is not this the one who used to sit and beg?"' --John 9:1-8 While Jesus certainly healed this man, he also specifically said there was purpose in his being born blind: "it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him." God had sovereignly decreed that this man spend the first part of his life in total darkness, specifically for the purpose of glorifying Himself in the healing of the man's blindness. Jesus used the blind man and his healing to teach his disciples that He is the Light of the world. Others saw the healing of the man born blind and could not dispute the authority of Jesus. "There was such a major part of His ministry don't you believe He would have been wise enough to teach us that God makes us sick to teach us?" So why did God make the man blind from birth? "No..I do not believe sickness is the chastening rod of God." Chastening implies sin. No one is saying that all sickness is punishment. Does suffering have purpose, however? What does 1 Peter have to say about suffering? Is it meaningless and unnecessary? --Joe! |
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4 | Did Jesus go to hell? | 1 Peter | gracefull | 80743 | ||
Hi Joe,and all other fellow forum brothers and'or sisters: I have been visiting this forum for a year almost, and I have noticed something that I intend to correct in the way I post. The problem with these threads is that they jump from scripture to scripture, even from subject to subject, and this ends up in confusion which I believe will not be helpful to visitors and may actually be harmful. Since I started this thread discussing 2 Corinthians, in light of teachings on healing, that is where I have concluded. For discussions here to be both productive and reasonable, time and research wise, I will not attempt to address 'scatter shots'. Although these scriptures by all of you do indeed address the subject of healing....I was addressing 2 Corinthians. We will surely have opportunity to address these others, but I intend to read your posts, pray and ask the Holy Spirit for guidance on what scriptures to study next. I hope this will help create a more 'Bible Study' atmosphere for visitors. Prayerfull...someone seeking an answer of "sufferings" will realize Paul is speaking of persecutions and hardships due to our association with the person of Jesus the Messiah, and will realize one can't erase 'messenger of Satan' and write 'sickness and desease or affliction' as Paul's thorn. To accept this fact does create some new things to consider, but that is what Bible Study is supposed to do. Get to truth and eliminate deceptions and lies from Satan. God bless |
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5 | Did Jesus go to hell? | 1 Peter | Reformer Joe | 80748 | ||
'Prayerfull...someone seeking an answer of "sufferings" will realize Paul is speaking of persecutions and hardships due to our association with the person of Jesus the Messiah, and will realize one can't erase 'messenger of Satan' and write 'sickness and desease or affliction' as Paul's thorn.' When one is afflicted by demonic activity, does it not often result in physical ailment? Think of those oppressed by demons in Scripture who were mute or suffered seizures. Could Paul have been suffering physical torment from this messenger of Satan? I don't think anyone was arguing for erasing one thing and inserting another, but rather to suggest that the former could very well have manifested itself as the latter. --Joe! |
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