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1 | explain Mark 15:34 | Mark | stjones | 21148 | ||
Hi, Tim; I agree. This is a topic that I've thought about in the past and felt moved to jump in. I once did a brief meditation at a community Good Friday service on some of Jesus' words from the cross. In it, I speculated about Jesus' separation from his Father at Christmas when he "stepped across the stars to Bethlehem and Jerusalem". I wondered if his prayer in Gethsemane wasn't motivated more by dread of this looming moment of complete separation than by dread of the cross itself. I concluded with the thought that the terrible, undeserved separation he endured assures us that "neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God." (Romans 8:38-39) Still, the details are a mystery that ought to pique our curiosity but also feed our sense of wonder. Peace and grace, Steve |
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2 | explain Mark 15:34 | Mark | EdB | 21157 | ||
Steve I'm confused if you believe Romans 8:38-39, as I do, how is you believe God would leave Jesus. Everyone says God had to turn from Jesus when He had all the sin of the world on Him, WHY? Satan stands before God and he is the epitome of sin. Also for God to turn Himself from Jesus means He turned Himself from Himself since They are One. Mark 15:34 shows Jesus’ concern for us and His willingness to die for us by reciting Psalm 22, which was a prophetic picture of what was taking place, in one more attempt to show the people their error. God never left Jesus for a moment and there isn’t anything in the bible to indicate God did. EdB |
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3 | explain Mark 15:34 | Mark | stjones | 21168 | ||
Hi EdB; I guess I don't see the connection with Romans 8:38-39 since that has to do with the assurance of our reconciliation with God accomplished by Jesus on the cross. But I do wonder why Jesus (quoting Psalm 22) would cry out to God who had "forsaken" him? Are you saying that was just a final scripture lesson for the benefit of the spectators and not a cry from the heart? It seems to me that this cry suggests (probably doesn't prove) that God the Father had indeed "forsaken" him somehow. To say that God "turned away" is more metaphorical than factual. Clearly, nobody really knows. I don't want to start a whole new trinity discussion, but they are also Three. I assume that it would be one thing for God to contenance Satan and his sin and something entirely different to see his own Son (and himself, in some mysterious way) stained with the world's sin. Peace and grace, Steve |
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4 | explain Mark 15:34 | Mark | EdB | 21184 | ||
The connection with Romans 8:38-39 is love is what keeps the promise that God would never leave us of forsake us. How much more the love of the Father for the Son that was faithful and obedient. No, God would never leave nor forsake Jesus. Jesus' cry was two things first another confirmation of his humanity and two a conformation of His divinity even in agony of death He is still teaching His beloved children of His love. There is much teaching about God having to turn from sin where do we get this idea? God and Christ confronted sin head on. God in His love for us reaches out to us when we were deepest in sin. Many say sin separates us from God and that is spiritual death, and I agree but Christ couldn’t have experienced that or he would have been both physically and spiritually dead which means (and I too am not trying to start another discussion on the trinity) that since Jesus and God are one then God would have had to died spiritually also. No Way! |
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5 | explain Mark 15:34 | Mark | stjones | 21190 | ||
Hi, EdB; Well, while I'm not entirely convinced, I'm convinced it's not terribly important: "Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face" (1 Corinthians 13:12) Peace and grace, Steve |
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6 | explain Mark 15:34 | Mark | EdB | 21199 | ||
Just the fact you would consider it means there is desire to learn. EdB |
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7 | explain Mark 15:34 | Mark | stjones | 21201 | ||
Naw; I've got it all figured out ;-) ;-) ;-) Peace and grace, Steve |
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