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1 | Double portion is really only two-thirds | 2 Kin 2:9 | charis | 33854 | ||
Dear 10EC, (I know it's Tim, but I like 10EC! :-)) Greetings in Jesus' name! I have heard that one too! Let me add yet another: The 50 got a 'single-portion,' and Elisha got twice as much as these 'less-faithful' prophets. (they weren't present when Elijah was taken up) Therefore, Elisha got a 'double-portion.' However, all that said, I agree with you that it is probably not 2X of anything, or even 2/3, but the 'full-portion' of the God-given gift. (dare I say ministry, spirit, endowment or anointing [Greek! :-)]?) After all, both Elijah and Elisha were 'great' prophets! But to argue which had more 'power' is akin to the sons of Zebedee trying to be closer to the Lord than the other disciples, yes? By the way, I have heard that there is a lot of abuse of the word 'anointing' which may be the reason for some amount of 'sensitivity' to this word. As I am far away from the blessing of 'mainstream American Christianity' I was unaware that we cant use this word without rousing xenophobic reaction. Peace! Blessings to you for your 2 cents! This is my 2 yen. (presently worth 1.48 cents, or .0174 Euros) In Christ Jesus, charis |
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2 | Double portion is really only two-thirds | 2 Kin 2:9 | stjones | 33942 | ||
Hi, charis; Without intending to be critical of either of you or Searcher, this, um, discussion illustrates a pet peeve of mine. I get a little nervous when folks who don't read ancient Hebrew (or Greek) start to interpret the meaning of a specific word in a specific passage. Strong's proves both of you right (which I've noticed is often the case in this kind of discussion). The real meaning of the word only becomes clear in the context of the original ancient Hebrew (or Greek) and maybe not even then. The English word "anoint" (which no Biblical writer ever heard of) clearly has multiple meanings. Which shade of meaning applies in this passage or that is better left up to the translators. Which is why having only one translation of the Bible is like archery with one hand tied behind your back. At any rate, I can't imagine what could possibly be the theological significance of whether or not "anoint" applies in this passage. BTW, I belong to a mainstream denomination and, trust me, the meaning of "anoint" isn't even on the radar screen. Our leadership is busy tring to figure out what we mean when we say ministers, elders, and deacons are supposed to be in faithful, heterosexual marriage or chaste. You folks go ahead and split hairs over "anoint"; we're busy splitting atoms over "chaste". Sigh. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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3 | Double portion is really only two-thirds | 2 Kin 2:9 | charis | 33946 | ||
Dear Indy, Greetings from the Far East in the name of Jesus! My friend, I agee with you! That is precisely why I sometimes write like the Amplified Bible. :-) I did that this time and found that one of my 'amplifications' was totally unacceptable to some folks for reasons I could not fathom for some time! Theological significance!? Yeah, right! :-) I don't envy your arguments about 'chaste.' At least we have settled THAT one in our local church. But, we don't have many (any) theologians, either! Good luck! If I may say so, I have never had such 'discussions' in Japanese. Maybe English has too much (convoluted) history, and too much 'poetic license!' In my second language (first after 30 years?) of Japanese, this entire thread is summed up as, "American Christians sure have a lot of free time on their hands!" :-) I sometimes try to explain to my congregation the 'issues' portrayed on this forum, and all I get is a dumdfounded stare. From a former Hoosier. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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4 | Double portion is really only two-thirds | 2 Kin 2:9 | stjones | 34063 | ||
Hi, charis; Too much time on our hands - our Korean and African brothers and sisters have told our denominational leaders as much. The absence of theologians is probably a good thing. Most of the modern variety seem to approach the Bible with an attitude of "what can I find in here to back up my position?". Oh, well. I'm a panmillenialist - it'll all pan out in the end (old joke, but true). Our church supports a missionary in the vicinity of Tokyo. She teaches music at a Christian school and pastors a small house church. Just so you'll know you're not the only former Hoosier in Japan. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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