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1 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 25674 | ||
Greetings Nolan: You said: Genesis 3:1-7 is referring to a tangible fruit on a tree, not a symbolic fruit of fornication. It had to be tangible so that she could be ordered not to "touch" it (v.3), or eat it (v.3,6). But they did eat of the fruit and their eyes were opened. My reply: The spiritual realities of these things are real, more real than the natural. The fruit of GODS Spirit is love, joy, peace......The fruit of unbelief(sin) is envy, strife, fornication...... Nolan: If the tree of the knowledge of good and evil were symbolic, then how do explain the tree of Life in Genesis 2:9 and Revelation 22:2,14. I believe that these are literal trees. If that is so, then Adam and Eve ate of "literal" fruit as well! Paul: Jesus Christ the only begotten of GOD is the tree of life, and the man of sin is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Embracing what either brings to you will bear fruit in one life. Nothing can grow in us but that we accept it, either by desire(unforgivable), or through deception(power of the devil which Jesus destroyed). We will grow and be formed in Jesus, or in the spirit of this world. So I don't believe it was an apple or such, but rather a specific act meant to bring Eve and Adasm into sin. Nolan: Moreover, it was a "serpent" that deceived Eve (2 Cor. 11:3), not a man. Paul: creatures are often used of GOD to portray the position of a man. Our Lord is not a lion, yet He is the Lion of the tribe of Judah. The fact is that all man is apart from GOD is a beast(like the one in Revelation). The serpent portrays the agency of a man in service to the devil(more subtile than any creature). Jesus identified the pharisees as snakes. Nolan: And the NT does not allude to any possibility other than the fact that Adam and Eve were deceived by eating fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (1 Tim. 2:13,14). Adam and Eve were the ONLY TWO HUMANS on earth at the time of the Garden of Eden. Paul: It says first Adam, then Eve, but as to what happened after the disobedience, well we can think on it. I'm seeing that many children were born of fornication, and that this was the specific act which Eve partook of, and brought to Adam. GOD kept a pure lineage for His seed, but the rest fell into mixture, and the bearing of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. Look at matthew 13:37-43 in regards to this, as Jesus explains the two sowers to His disciples. GOD bless us all in our desire to know and please Him, Paul |
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2 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Makarios | 25684 | ||
Greetings Paul, You can twist Scripture any way that you want to and make it say whatever that you would like it to say. I, however, will not do this, and prefer to take Scripture 'at face value'. - Nolan |
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3 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 25715 | ||
Thats a lousy way to end any reasoning. I'm not twisting, I'm trying to see what is being said. If you take scripture at face value, then show how the scriptures and points I raised are in error WITH SCRIPTURE. If you can't, or don't wish to do that, then why accuse me of doing the last thing I'd ever want to be guilty of?? | ||||||
4 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Makarios | 25764 | ||
Greetings Paul.. If you read Genesis 3:1-7, it says... "Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You shall not eat of any tree in the garden'?" And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths." [English Standard Version] After reading and studying the aforementioned passage, I do not find a hint of sexually immorality, any hint of interpreting the serpent as anything but a serpent, or anything to suggest that the fruit from the tree was anything but a piece of fruit from a tree. So there you go. I believe that you are grossly adding your own intentional interpretation to what is so clearly expressed within the text, and that you, and only you, would make such an assertion and take such liberty with these passages. Also, I ask you: can you find one credible scholar to support your point of view?? Genesis was written as a narrative, not as apocalyptic literature, and it should be understood as a narrative. As for raising up your "faults" with Scripture, I have been known on this Forum for doing just that. And I will not hesistate to tell you that you are, in fact, twisting and adding your own interpretations to this Scripture by stating your false assertions about this passage, in which any credible scholar would not support nor find reasonable. - Nolan |
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5 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 25775 | ||
OK, thats an honest opinion of Nolan. How do you see the two sowers in light of this?? How do you see Cain described as of that wicked one?? How do you see the contrast between flesh and spirit so powerfully drawn in Romans 8?? I've thought on these and many other things as I've sought GOD in His word. Your right, I am seeing the events of Genesis 3:1-7 in a way not clearly shown by those verses, but scripture interpts itself, in the revelation of GOD. Nolan: As for raising up your "faults" with Scripture, I have been known on this Forum for doing just that. And I will not hesistate to tell you that you are, in fact, twisting and adding your own interpretations to this Scripture by stating your false assertions about this passage, in which any credible scholar would not support nor find reasonable. I guess thats the end of that. I don't think it will do any good to continue now, so lets leave it alone after your next response, if you choose to respond. |
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6 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Makarios | 26218 | ||
Greetings Paul! I am glad to say that no one else on the Forum takes such liberty with Genesis 3 as you do, and it seems that more people have agreed with me than with you. So a conclusion has been reached, and I guess thats the end of that. If you choose to respond, then remember that you and you alone share your opinion. - Nolan |
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