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1 | Satan said I will how many times? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 134272 | ||
I suspect the answer to your question would depend heavily on which version of the Bible one uses. Though only a few are truly inspired, there are many. too many. GB |
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2 | Satan said I will how many times? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 134430 | ||
Glory Bound I have read this thread with some interest. You say some translations are inspired and others aren't. My understanding is the Bible is inspired and a translation is just that a translation. However I will concede some translations are far better than others. I personally find the Living Bible to be distasteful. While I think the New Living Translation to be excellent. When asked which translations you thought were inspired you listed the NIV and KJV, picking those two interests me. I totally understand KJV but the NIV is using different set of manuscripts than the KJV. It is those manuscripts many people find objectionable and thus resist using newer translations like the NASB, ESV and NIV. Therefore I’m a little at a lost to understand your rational for picking the NIV. I noticed in one response you mention the leading of the Holy Spirit as your guide in making a decision on translations. And that even more amazes me as I think the NIV handles the Holy Spirit poorly and in fact almost reduces Him down to a power rather than a personality. Also the NIV is published by Zondervan that brought out a politically correct gender neutral version after promising the Christian leadership they wouldn’t. After the heat died down Zondervan very quietly brought out the TNIV which to me indicates deception and therefore my boycott of all Zondervan material. I’m sorry I didn’t mean to go into this much detail but I’m curious in light of all of this why to declare the NIV to be inspired and evidently reject many others that I think deserve consideration? Perhaps you would explain why you don’t seem to have a manuscript conflict that many do that object to the newer versions? I would also love to understand why you think a paraphrase which admittedly isn’t a word for word translation is better than say the NASB which used the same manuscripts and is a word for word translation? If this seems hostile in anyway I apologize I’m just trying to understand your rather unique position on Bible translations. Again I apologize if it seems like I’m challenging you or anything like this, I’m not but I’m real curious. EdB |
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3 | Satan said I will how many times? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 134434 | ||
Most lean solely on their knowledge, and that of others. I am not saying this is wrong, but I can't help but to think what scripture says concerning mans wisdom and learning. I agree with you concerning the Living Bible, and your distaste for Zondervan, but if you will note, I have not mentioned a single version, which I consider unworthy. Though at least one person in this forum would have it otherwise, I have no intention of opening such a can of worms concerning this matter. I use the NIV, copywrited 1984. I do not care for Zondervan either, nor their other versions. As stated in my profile, I also use the KJV and Interlinear Hebrew, Greek and English Versions of scripture, along with various other versions, commentaries and such. My soul dependency concerning the Word though, is the Holy Spirit, faith, discernment, adherence to scripture, and other numerous gifts available to those who would just, shut their mouth, and open their heart to them. It is a fact that someone can and will find something wrong with whatever version anyone uses. To those who can see, it is also a fact that, this is another ploy of Satan, and that if, as I have stated previously, one is sincere and adheres to 2 Timothy 2:15, they will develop a spiritual discernment that appears to be non existent with anyone I have thus far discussed this topic with on this forum. Satan knows he can’t add to or take from scripture. He has tried that and failed many times. The multitude of various new “versions” is his latest ploy. Personally, I would recommend that anyone who understands 16th century English proficiently, stick to the KJV. I don’t. When I determined to learn scripture, I didn’t even know that there was anything other than the KJV. I told the Lord, “Surely there is something out there that I can understand better than KJ.” He showed me the NIV right after it was published in its entirety in the 70’s. I have scrutinized the NIV; and in doing so, through comparison to the best and most available of the “translated scrolls,” which I have been able to acquire, found many discrepancies in the KJV. Neither are perfect. Neither are perfect. Neither are perfect. Nor am I, yet. But I am well on my way to perfection, and thank God, I am Glory Bound! Unfortunately, there just aren’t enough originals to go around where scripture is concerned. I have no doubt that our Lord has considered this fact. One has to exercise a thing called faith, in the matter. It is those who doubt that I am concerned with. I would assert that it is those who profess, yet doubt, that should be concerned the most. Such a topic can easily dissuade the babes in Christ. It is apparent that meat of this word chokes many who profess to be more mature. As for those who have a problem in digesting what I say, I would suggest they go back to the milk of scripture. IF, of course, they can find faith enough to believe in whatever version they would choose. As I have stated, I am confident that the Word in which I trust, is inspired. I’d be as miserable as some appear, who wish to argue the matter with me, if I weren’t. God Bless GB |
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4 | Satan said I will how many times? | Bible general Archive 2 | BradK | 134445 | ||
GB, I would offer that your response certainly does not put to rest this matter. I'm more puzzled than anything by both your rather glowing generalities and appearance of superiority. To quote: ", as I have stated previously, one is sincere and adheres to 2 Timothy 2:15, they will develop a spiritual discernment that appears to be non existent with anyone I have thus far discussed this topic with on this forum" "As for those who have a problem in digesting what I say, I would suggest they go back to the milk of scripture. IF, of course, they can find faith enough to believe in whatever version they would choose." All I will say to this is: these statements prove nothing, my friend! If you're really as mature and have digested the real meat as you suggest, maybe you should enlighten those of us who are mere "babes". If not, as I suspect is the real case, possibly you may have missed Romans 12:16? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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5 | Satan said I will how many times? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 134520 | ||
You want scripture Brad? Consider 2Ti 2:16 and 2Ti 3:7. This seems to depict those who continue to insist on arguing this point. But then, why should I quote scripture those who do not believe in its inspiration? I make no claim of wisdom. I judge not. But by the authority of the Living Word of God All Mighty, I know what is and is not of Him. He has given me His word, just as He has you. If this gives me an “appearance of superiority,” so be it. Those who consider themselves inferior only see another as superior. I profess only what is mine by the authority of the Living Word, the authority of which seems to be in question in this particular thread, If those who profess to know scripture cannot understand the truth of my “rather glowing generalities”, perhaps they should take a closer look at their attempt to live what it is they profess to know. Through faith, discernment and the Holy Spirit, I choose to accept the inspiration of some translations. By this same “faith, discernment and Holy Spirit, I choose not to accept the lack of inspiration of other translations.” I neither need, nor do I attempt to provide the “proof,” which those of little faith insist on. Those who call themselves Christians, yet insist on “proof” concerning my avocation, that particular versions are inspired, might be asked, “by what authority do you know what it is that you profess?” Truth is the Word. If one doubts the authority of the word, what does this say concerning his truth? GB |
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