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1 | Are Rapture and Apostasy the same thing? | 2 Thess 2:3 | Vincent | 187770 | ||
From ebrain: "What precisely does Paul mean when he says that "the falling away" (2:3) must come before the tribulation? The definite article "the" denotes that this will be a definite event, an event distinct from the appearance of the Man of Sin. The Greek word for "falling away", taken by itself, does not mean religious apostasy or defection. Neither does the word mean "to fall," as the Greeks have another word for that. [pipto, I fall; TDI] The best translation of the word is "to depart." The apostle Paul refers here to a definite event which he calls "the departure," and which will occur just before the start of the tribulation. This is the rapture of the church.[4] So the word has the core meaning of departure and it depends upon the context to determine whether it is used to mean physical departure or an abstract departure such as departure from the faith." So are the rapture and the apostasy of the church the same thing? Vincent |
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2 | Are Rapture and Apostasy the same thing? | 2 Thess 2:3 | mark d seyler | 187774 | ||
Hi Vincent, Since the church has know mass apostasy since the beginning, I don't see how apostasy in the English sense is a sign of anything. But apostasia in the Greek since, departure, seems to fit well. This would mean Paul is telling the Thess. church that the Day of the LORD comes after the departure, and the revealing of the man of sin. "Apostasia" could be a spatial departure, or it could be some other departure. For me, the context, theme, and Paul's mention that he had previously taught them about this all seem to point to this being the rapture. Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | Are Rapture and Apostasy the same thing? | 2 Thess 2:3 | Vincent | 187776 | ||
""Apostasia" could be a spatial departure, or it could be some other departure. For me, the context, theme, and Paul's mention that he had previously taught them about this all seem to point to this being the rapture. Love in Christ, Mark" Why doesn't the church generally teach this then? Vincent |
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4 | Are Rapture and Apostasy the same thing? | 2 Thess 2:3 | mark d seyler | 187778 | ||
Hi Vincent, Its not a majority view. I suspect a great many people are simply unaware of this information. Several early English translations used "the departure", but that was discarded in favor of "apostasy", falling away, rebellion, and such. There are numerous people who don't teach the rapture at all. There are a great many who do not believe that the 70th week is yet to be fulfilled, that there will be a literal 1000 years while Christ rules the world from Jerusalem, prior to the New Heaven and Earth. So my guess is that people don't generally teach this either because they are unaware of this knowledge, or they do not believe it should be interpreted this way and they don't want to confuse with other alternatives. Just my thoughts. . . Love in Christ, Mark |
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