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1 | How did Paul understand salvation? | Eph 1:5 | John Pilgrim | 114878 | ||
FOR WHO DID CHRIST DIE? John Owen The Father imposed His wrath due unto, and the Son underwent punishment for, either: 1.) All the sins of all men. 2.) All the sins of some men, or 3.) Some of the sins of all men. In which case it may be said: That if the last be true, all men have some sins to answer for, and so, none are saved. That if the second be true, then Christ, in their stead suffered for all the sins of all the elect in the whole world, and this is the truth. But if the first be the case, why are not all men free from the punishment due unto their sins? You answer, "Because of unbelief." I ask, Is this unbelief a sin, or is it not? If it be, then Christ suffered the punishment due unto it, or He did not. If He did, why must that hinder them more than their other sins for which He died? If He did not, He did not die for all their sins!" |
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2 | How did Paul understand salvation? | Eph 1:5 | Morant61 | 114903 | ||
Greetings John! Exercises in logic are fun, but I stick with the explict statements of Scripture my friend! 2 Cor. 5:13 says, "For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died." Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | How did Paul understand salvation? | Eph 1:5 | John Pilgrim | 114942 | ||
Dear Tim, Thank you for your reply. Christianity is not illogical nor anti-logical. Nowhere in Scripture are we advised to put our minds on hold: (Is 1:18) "Come now, and let us reason together,"Says the LORD..." (James 3:17) "But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable...". Reason: The faculty of capacity of the human mind by which it is distinguished from the intelligence of the inferior animals; the higher as distinguished from the lower cognitive faculties, sense, imagination, and memory, and in contrast to the feelings and desires...(Webster's). Paul resoned from Scripture so as to pursuade his listeners to the truth regarding Christ Jesus. I will admit that the question, as posed by Owens, has only one reasonable answer...and that answer is diametricaly opposed to the majority view. Nevertheless, it is worthy of our consideration. Deductive reasoning is a God-given faculty. Where would the evangelist be without it? Brother John Pilgrim |
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4 | How did Paul understand salvation? | Eph 1:5 | Morant61 | 114971 | ||
Greetings John! It is good to 'reason' with you again my friend! ;-) But, since we have beat this poor horse many times, I will leave my previous response as my final word on this topic. I look forward to addressing other topics with you my friend. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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