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1 | Joe, baptism required for Lord's Supper? | 1 Cor 11:27 | Searcher56 | 63132 | ||
John, Your eisogesis includes the following: "I believe that the context dictates that the term 'examine' would mean a thorough examination of the heart, followed by confession to God, repentance of sin and forgiveness." There are three specifics. The examination does not include all sins. Recall what I said. It also includes, "Jesus washed the feet of the disciples prior to the meal. This not only taught them humility but the water was symbolic of purification as well." This is not included in this passage. I would think Paul would of mentioned it since one of the problems was pride. End of discussion, Searcher |
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2 | Joe, baptism required for Lord's Supper? | 1 Cor 11:27 | John Reformed | 63217 | ||
Dear Searcher, I understand that you do longer wish to discuss the topic of baptism and I will respect your request. But is it fair to say that I have read into the text my own understanding and then to terminate further discussion? Your arguement against the use of employing related verses as a means of casting light on a (perhaps) less clear verse or passage is without any precedent that I am aware of! Have I misunderstood your reply? John |
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3 | Joe, baptism required for Lord's Supper? | 1 Cor 11:27 | Searcher56 | 63218 | ||
John, it fair to say that you have read into the text my own understanding. The passages you cite are not related verses ... in the context of this passage. Your "related verses" do not fit. | ||||||
4 | Joe, baptism required for Lord's Supper? | 1 Cor 11:27 | John Reformed | 63219 | ||
Dear Searcher, I provided my interpretation primarily from the chapter in question. If I am wrong in my exegesis, would'nt it be best if you were to show me where I went wrong? Isnt the edification of the saints through the study of Scripture the reason we post each other? The last paragraph was a reference to the Last Supper itself. I apologize for not providing the chapter and verse. Frankly, I did not expect any challenge to it's relevency to 1 Cor 11:27. I would consider it a favor if you looked once more at my post. If indeed I have lapsed into eisogesis I need to know how and where and what the proper understanding is. Thanks, John |
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5 | Joe, baptism required for Lord's Supper? | 1 Cor 11:27 | Ray | 63225 | ||
Hi John, The way I read Searcher's post was that he was pointing out that the washing of the disciples feet was not in the context of Matthew 26:26, Mark 14:22, or Luke 22:17. I think that his point is well taken. I don't see the relevance, in context, of water baptism either. I think that we have to keep our eyes on Jesus, for this is God's word. In that regard I think that Morant61 and BradK are right on. Christ is worthy and we should think of Him rightly. This passage is about Jesus' body. The partakers were eating the Lord's Supper like it was their usual meal. Didn't they have homes to eat their meals in? Rather, they should be aware that this bread and cup were Christ's body and it was a meal of remembrance of His death not an occasion to fill their bellies. They were told to "examine yourselves". See if your thoughts of the body are correct. If you don't see the elements as God's body, if you don't see that God's Son died for you, then you are not of the faith and are guilty before God. You have to know that THIS IS the body of God's Son. 1 Corinthians 11:24, "THIS IS My body, which is [broken] for you." John 6:58, "THIS IS the Bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate, and died, he who eats this Bread shall live forever." Matthew 26:31, Mark 14:27, NKJ, "for it is written, 'I will strike the Shepherd, And the sheep will be scattered.'" I would say that anyone who knows the Savior and who knows that He died for his/her sins, would be welcome to remember His death in communion. 2 Corinthians 13:5, "Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you--unless you fail the test? But I trust that you will realize that we ourselves do not fail the test." From the heart, Ray |
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6 | Joe, baptism required for Lord's Supper? | 1 Cor 11:27 | John Reformed | 63255 | ||
Dear Ray, Thank you for your answer. You may be be right. Pehaps I did read more into the washing of the disciples feet than is warrented by the text. I do not believe in an inherent but, rather an imputed righteouness of the believer. We are worthy based upon our faith in Christ and not on works. That being said, I still believe that it is important to confess our sins and repent of our rebellion against the Father's will before we take the Lord's Supper. The reason why is that a proper discernment of the body of Christ comes from the Holy Spirit and that open rebellion against a commandment is grievous to Him. You commented only on the last paragraph of my post and I wonder if you agree on the rest of it? Thanks Again, Brother John |
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