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1 | Faith apart from reading the Bible? | Rom 10:17 | Reformer Joe | 20468 | ||
Steve: And I repeat: your use of the word "true" is an improper one. The revelation of Scripture may be INCOMPLETE regarding all Jesus said and did (John 21:25), but saying something is "more true" by definition means that the other thing is "more false." In Jesus dwells all of the fulness of the Godhead. We cannot say the same of the Bible. But both are equally true revelations. And I repeat: do we have Jesus in the flesh among us now? Therefore, where do we get everything reliable we DO know about Jesus? The Bible for us is the fullest revelation available to us, simply because Jesus is in Heaven, not holding press conferences on CNN. If I am wrong, tell me ONE thing you know about the revelation of Jesus Christ that is not found in the Bible. --Joe! |
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2 | Faith apart from reading the Bible? | Rom 10:17 | stjones | 20482 | ||
Trying again ... But first, please stop introducing falsehood into my explanations - the Bible and Jesus are both 100 percent truthful. You may imagine that I'm saying something is false, but I'm not. Falsehood is not the issue. Maybe the word "revelation" is. Revelation is not the mere recitation of facts; it means to show us something. Moses got more than the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai; he saw God. Jesus does a better job of showing us God than the Bible does. Jesus has one true attribute in common with God that the Bible absolutely does not have - the ability to save. Therefore Jesus is a truer, more complete, more faithful, more accurate revelation (image, picture, representation) of God. The Bible truthfully informs us of this ability and provides examples of both God's and Jesus' exercise of this ability, but the Bible doesn't have this ability. What does it mean to you to "have the mind of Christ"? (1 Corinthians 2:16) Does it mean that Jesus is locked in Heaven unable to speak to us? There have been many times in my life when that mind has given me direction. Every time we pray for guidance, every time we see God's hand in earthly events, God is revealed through Jesus. Yes, the Bible is the standard that helps us to discern the hand of an invisible God, but every time we do discern it, another little truth, no matter how tiny, is revealed to us. So I do indeed know things about Jesus that the Bible did not reveal to me. I know how Jesus wanted me to respond to him in the midst of raising-a-teenager crisis. He spoke to me in that "still small voice" that is described in the Bible but not found in it. Please provide scripture to back up your assertion that the Bible is on a par with Jesus who is the "image of God". Peace and grace, Steve |
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3 | Faith apart from reading the Bible? | Rom 10:17 | Reformer Joe | 20492 | ||
Steve: You wrote: "Please provide scripture to back up your assertion that the Bible is on a par with Jesus who is the 'image of God'." Please point out to me where I made that assertion. I do believe in the complete sufficiency of Scripture as a guide for the Christian life. Of course we are indwelt and taught by the Holy Spirit. I never one suggested that we do not have the Spirit of Christ. However, He works in conjunction with his Word. Since you already acknowledge that the "still, small voice" is not found in the Bible, how did you know that it was not your own eagerness, your own sinfulness and pride, or just something that didn't quite agree with your digestive system? In addition, if, as you assert, the "still, small voice" is indeed described IN THE BIBLE, how can you make the claim that it is something beyond the Bible? The Bible contains all we need to know as believers to direct our steps in a Godly manner. It is the Holy Spirit which enables us to understand what has been revealed to us about Christ in the Bible. There is nothing that the Holy Spirit teaches us about the Father or the Son that is not already contained in Scripture or that can be logically deduced from Scripture. So, please, Steve, give me one SPECIFIC example of something you know about Christ Himself that is not found, mentioned, or described in Scripture. --Joe! |
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