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1 | no forgiveness when knew better | John 3:16 | EdB | 64997 | ||
Welldigger I think the NASB makes this a little clearer. Hebrews 10:26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, Notice the wording, "If we go on sinning willfully". What this is speaking about is, people making a conscience decision to live in sin forsaking Jesus, turning their backs on him. This deals more with the rejection of Christ than of actual act of sinning when read within context. EdB |
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2 | You didn't "go on sinning"? | John 3:16 | welldigger | 65028 | ||
Are you saying that you didn't "go on sinning" when you continued to commit sins even though you knew better? Also, I'm not saying that that scripture isn't talking about forsaking the truth, rejecting Christ. It is based on what's after the 26th verse, but God is defining turning from the truth to be to "sin wilfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth" (or knowing better). |
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3 | You didn't "go on sinning"? | John 3:16 | EdB | 65062 | ||
Welldigger Why do I get the feeling your trying to get me to dig a hole? Instead of trying to figure how much we can get away with let’s look at what God wants for us. Once we become a Christian our life should start to change. We should have a desire to draw nearer to God. We should become more and more uncomfortable with sin, either to be around it or to commit it. We are called to holiness, righteousness, and to abstain from things that aren't. Does that mean we will never sin, no but we sure should be moving away from sin and closer to God. The Holy Spirit is our teacher and He will reveal things in our life that need to be dealt with. If we commit sin, intentionally, inadvertently, possibly caught up in the moment the Holy spirit will make us feel uncomfortable and hopefully that will cause us to repent. The problem comes when we try to justify our sin, we allow ourselves to become comfortable with sin and then we move closer to the condition you asked about in Heb 10:26. How far do we have to go to reach the condition of Hebrews 10:26? I don’t know nor do I want to know. My desire as should yours is to draw closer to a Holy God and to do that I must put all hindrances aside. I hope that answers your question EdB |
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4 | What do you see in the scriptures? | John 3:16 | welldigger | 65077 | ||
How far is "too far": The scriptures say that the old testament is a shadow or figure or image of the new testament (things to come): For THE LAW [[old testament]] HAVING A SHADOW OF GOOD **THINGS TO COME**, AND NOT THE VERY IMAGE OF THE THINGS, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged SHOULD HAVE HAD NO MORE CONSCIENCE OF SINS. (Hebrews 10:1-2) And the scriptures say that the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, will show you of the things that the old testament is a shadow OF, or figure OF, or image OF, which is the new testament, the second covenant. Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, ***THE COMFORTER*** will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. (John 16:7) Howbeit WHEN HE, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, IS COME, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and HE WILL SHEW YOU **THINGS TO COME**. (John 16:13) So, let’s look at the shadow, figure, or image in Numbers 15 (old testament) and allow the Holy Spirit to show us clarification of the rules laid out in Hebrews 10:26 (new testament). Let’s look at the blue print for the house God has built. First, God lays out the situation and the grounds for forgiveness: And if any soul SIN THROUGH IGNORANCE, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering. And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul THAT SINNETH IGNORANTLY, when he SINNETH BY IGNORANCE before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; AND IT SHALL BE FORGIVEN HIM. Ye shall have one law for him THAT SINNETH THROUGH IGNORANCE, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. (Numbers 15:27-29) The only stipulation is that whoever committed sin must have done it “through ignorance” or “ignorantly” or “by ignorance” OR NOT KNOWING BETTER. ignorant : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I HAD NOT KNOWN SIN, BUT BY THE LAW: for I HAD NOT KNOWN LUST, EXCEPT THE LAW HAD SAID, THOU SHALT NOT COVET. (Romans 7:7) If the sin was “in ignorance” a sacrifice must be offered before God will forgive that sin. What about if the sin was NOT committed “in ignorance”, or was committed knowing better: But the soul THAT DOETH OUGHT [[anything]] PRESUMPTUOUSLY [[willfully or knowing better]], whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, THE SAME REPROACHETH THE LORD; AND THAT SOUL SHALL BE CUT OFF FROM AMONG HIS PEOPLE. BECAUSE HE HATH DESPISED THE WORD OF THE LORD, AND HATH BROKEN HIS COMMANDMENT, THAT SOUL SHALL UTTERLY BE CUT OFF; HIS INIQUITY SHALL BE UPON HIM. (Numbers 15:30-31) There is no sacrifice, forgiveness, or atonement ritual mentioned. God says whoever commits a sin when knowing better will have to pay for that sin themselves. God is saying there is no forgiveness for sins committed when knowing better. He provided an example to clarify: And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man THAT GATHERED STICKS UPON THE SABBATH DAY. And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. AND THE LORD SAID UNTO MOSES, THE MAN SHALL BE SURELY PUT TO DEATH: ALL THE CONGREGATION SHALL STONE HIM WITH STONES WITHOUT THE CAMP. AND ALL THE CONGREGATION BROUGHT HIM WITHOUT THE CAMP, AND STONED HIM WITH STONES, AND HE DIED; AS THE LORD COMMANDED MOSES. (Numbers 15:32-36) How come this man was not given opportunity to repent of the sin he committed? Did it say he was gathering sticks to build a pentagram and offer sacrifices in the middle of it to Baal? Or to the devil? Or to Satan? Did it say he went about to “try to justify” his sin? Did it say that he had allowed himself “to become comfortable with sin”? How far did it say this man went? Don’t you think if God was trying to tell us not to stray way far away from Him in some grand and obvious way, that the example God gave would have shown that in the example He gave us? You know, showing that the guy completely renounced God, completely turning away in a long drawn out blaspheming of God, at least went back to Egypt and worshipped Pharoah, openly cursed God, spit on the high priest, set fire to the tabernacle, or something? So, I put the question to you again, because God has sent me here to help you, as He helped me: Are you saying that you didn't "go on sinning" when you continued to commit sins even though you knew better? |
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5 | What do you see in the scriptures? | John 3:16 | Searcher56 | 65090 | ||
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