Bible Question: Hi With all this hype going on about the book and Movie Left Behind God has really laid it upon my heart to find out what the bible really says about it and see if human error has played a part in the translation and caused it to be misleading if you have any verses that pertain to the tribulation please feel free to let me know |
Bible Answer: Thepoet5656, After reading all these lines of theology. To correctly state pretrib, when it all began to be introduced in the 1800's, it was called the secret rapture. At that time it was the minority view. Today it is the majority view, especially since the book by Hal Lindsey. And now the ideology of the secret rapture has reached an even greater height of acceptance within the church body. One question I ask, if the secret rapture is so easy to see then why doesn't such great scholars as Martin Luther ever speak of it? How about Mr.Calvin? Or even Gerome? Why is it for almost 1800 years (give or take 400 or 500 yrs.) for the time of the writing of the manuscripts, why are there no other scholars before the 1800's all the way back to Genesis 1:1 that no one expresses this theology. In Matt 10:26 26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. KJV So, just as the Jehovah's Witnesses say, there was no one around to interpret the bible correctly until the Watchtower Society. Kind of erroneus isn't it? It follows the same manifestation and guidelines that no one can interpret these scriptures until the 1800's. Just as I have pointed out to the Jehovah's witnesses, I have just pointed out to you. So the church body was deaf,blind and dumb and all the scholars upon the face of the earth were blinded also. Not that I agree with midtrib but at least they have a genuine argument. But one of the scriptures that the secret rapture people love to use is 1Cor. 15:51-52 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. KJV It amazes me all the books I've read on the rapture ties these verses to 1 Thess.4:13-18 13 Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14 We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage each other with these words. (from New International Version) The key is in 1 Cor. 15 is the word "LAST" in the orginal Greek is, NT:2078 eschatos (es'-khat-os); a superlative probably from NT:2192 (in the sense of contiguity); farthest, final (of place or time): KJV - ends of, last, latter end, lowest, uttermost. the word "LAST" has been used with the same translation 53 times in the New Testament. And the context of it's use is always the same. "LAST" is the most furtherest out. I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but there are only seven trumps, and throughout the Bible you can only find the first and second advent. So, I'm sure you can at least concur with this that the first advent has already happened and we are waiting upon the second with no secret rapture between. Unless I'm confused, and Paul was confused about what he was saying in Corinth compared to what he was saying in Thessalonians. So I'm going to put you on the spot now. If he does not come at the "LAST" trump, does this make Paul a liar? I don't think so. So I encourage everyone to give all the rapture scriptures they can find. (POST-TRIBBER) PRAISEMASTER |