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NASB | 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord does not delay [as though He were unable to act] and is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is [extraordinarily] patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. |
Subject: Debate Arminian/Calvinist views? |
Bible Note: Steve I agree doctrine in itself is not a bad thing. However there is a great distance between a Gnosticism and Orthodox Christianity. The point I was making Hank and CDBJ said they were tired of all the labeling that needed to be applied to Christians today to explain the various doctrines. In Hank’s whimsical way he was bemoaning the fact that there were very few just plain Christians, people without an agenda. There was a then a reply that said there was always labels. My original append was stating the fact that yes there have been aberrant teachings all though church history. Therefore but we need to be very cautious today that we don’t allow ourselves to be drawn into equally aberrant teachings because they were championed by some group declaring them orthodox, or have been repeated so often they become the accepted truth, or stand in opposition to something we do hold aberrant. I personally view need for labels distasteful when applied to theology. We either believe in the literal acceptance of the Bible or not. There can be no changing of words to fit a purpose, no changing of doctrine to fit a time, no manipulating scripture to violate the general theme seen throughout the Bible. I believe it is better to error on the side of caution than get so liberal we miss God. I believe pouncing on words and inventing doctrines from them is just as dangerous as ignoring God commands. It was Jesus’ desire that we would remain in one accord as one body. I view the divide of Catholicism and Protestantism as the greatest tragedy in the Christian Church. The fact that there is Catholicism and Protestantism shows we would rather accept man’s determinations rather than accept God by allowing scripture to reveal the truth. The fact there are 1600 (by last count) Protestant denominations proves this even more. The Reformation was birthed in the period called the “intellectual enlightenment period” when man started to self rationalize and tried to become self determining. In other words if it sounds good to you, and you can rationalize it, then do it. Before anyone jumps in, I’m not saying the Catholic church was without error. It definitely needed reformed. However the answer was not what happened. What happened was man unwilling to submit to very things the church should stand for. EdB |