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NASB | 2 Peter 3:4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Peter 3:4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming [what has become of it]? For ever since the fathers fell asleep [in death], all things have continued [exactly] as they did from the beginning of creation." |
Subject: Where do I go from here? |
Bible Note: Greetings Treadway! My friend, I think you misunderstood my 'gnat' remark! :-) I wasn't saying that studying about the second of Christ was a 'gnat' like endevour. I was saying that critics of the Bible focus on 'gnats' - like the insistence that 'soon' must mean 'in my lifetime', while they swallow whole camels of faulty logic - without even using Tums! I've already given my view on the meaning of 'soon', so I won't go there again. However, I would like to address your point about Nero and the mark of the Beast. There are three very significant problems with identifying the mark as standing for Nero. 1) The verse does not explain how this number is obtained or even what it means. Therefore, one must assume that the writer intended his readers to assign numerical values to the letters and add them up. This is a major assumption. 2) Secondly, the variant reading of '616' as oppossed to '666' is very weak. '666' doesn't work with Nero at all, yet it is the far better attested reading. 3) Finally, even the '616' reading only works with a little 'help'. Here is what Leon Morris says in his Tyndale New Testament Commentary on Revelation: "In modern times the most favoured solution is 'Nero Caesar' (if the final letter be omited to give the equivalent of the Latin spelling of the name the total is 616, the variant reading). But to get this result we must use the Greek form of the Latin name, transliterated into Hebrew characters, and with a variant spelling at that (the vowel letter y has to be omitted from qysr)." (pg. 169). This seems like an awful lot of 'help' to force the word to mean something which is not apparent in the text! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |