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NASB | 2 Peter 3:4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Peter 3:4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming [what has become of it]? For ever since the fathers fell asleep [in death], all things have continued [exactly] as they did from the beginning of creation." |
Subject: Modern Observation in Light of Scripture |
Bible Note: 2 Peter 3:4 And say, Where is the promise of His coming? For since the forefathers fell asleep, all things have continued exactly as they did from the beginning of creation. There is a common presupposition underlying all scientific dating methods, and that is the idea that what we see happening now is an accurate portrayal of what happened in the distant past. Peter states this quite succinctly in his letter: "all things have continued exactly as they did from the beginning of creation." At the risk of being repetitious, those who observe current phenomena, and based on those observations, calculate a rate of change, and then apply that rate of change historically to determine how long that change has been occuring are assuming, without the benefit of observation, that the rate of change has remained consistant since the beginning. This is exactly the thing that Peter warns against. "all things have continued exactly as they did from the beginning of creation." 2 Pet 3:5 "For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water," Creation is outside of the realm of observable science - There were not any scientists there to see it, so no matter what we may think happened, we do not actually know. Some have claimed, and appear to have demonstrated, that nuclear and molecular interaction durations have changed, and are subject to change according to the physical environment they occur in. We know that nuclear interaction durations are subject to the local gravitational field. Nuclear clocks keep different time depending on their distance from the center of the earth (altitude), or in other words, their position in the "gravity well". What other factors affect them? We know that plants grow remarkably different (faster, larger) in higher oxygenation and pressure. We know that during longer summers, lake plankon complete several life cycles, not just one. Carbon dating presupposes that the rate of cosmic radiation which produces the C14 has always been the same. Isotope dating presupposes that the atomic decay rates have always remained the same, and that nothing has happened to change them. 2 Pet 3:6 "through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water." How complete was that destruction? Were planetary orbits affected? What cosmological factors were affected? Did the earth lose a water canopy, allowing cosmic radiation to strike the earth that had never done so before? Did the earth receive a burst of radiation of some kind? Had the atmosphere been pressurized? No one knows. So whether one is counting subatomic particles, or diatoms, or tree rings (there are no trees 13 billion years old!) one is assuming that all things have continued exactly as they did from the beginning of creation. And Peter tells us that just isn't so. Love in Christ, Mark |
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