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NASB | 2 Peter 3:4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Peter 3:4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming [what has become of it]? For ever since the fathers fell asleep [in death], all things have continued [exactly] as they did from the beginning of creation." |
Bible Question:
Where do I go from here? Born a Baptist, raised a Baptist, I dutifully went to church every Sunday, zippered Bible in tow, no questions, no worries. At home, the family Bible rested always on the living room coffee table, seldom read, never studied. Then an acquaintance asked me if I had ever read the 19th writer, Robert Ingersoll, his works on religion. I had not. He suggested I do so. I did. And I cannot describe how shocked and angry I felt. But in the midst of all the anger I read these words: Most Christians have not read their own Bibles. He had me there. I had not ‘really’ read much of the Bible and just knew generally the standard fare of the Sunday school teaching. So, now I have read Ingersoll AND the Bible. Since then, I have visited studybibleforum to see the thinking of others, and while here, learned about preterist. This was after I listed several verses in a post that seemed pristinely clear that “soon” and “near” was the common understanding of ALL in the NT as they applied to the 2nd Coming. Except for two responses, neither of which directly addressed the context of the verses, there was silence. After looking up preterist, I discovered that their view of the 2nd Coming ideas were similar to what I had discovered in my own independent Bible reading. But then, as I learned more about their views, I came to understand that, for their particular reasons, they were not willing to take the logic of it all to its inevitable conclusions: a) the 2nd Coming was expected in the 1st Century AD b) the 2nd Coming did not happen c) the disciples were mistaken d) Jesus was mistaken e) if Jesus was mistaken, then He is not God f) there will be no 2nd Coming, no Rapture g) the Book of Revelations is, indeed, the ravings of a madman, just as Ingersoll and Thomas Jefferson declared h) and the accepted notion of God is in serious jeopardy. So, I must bid adieu. Thanks for your tolerance from a great group of people. Treadway |
Bible Answer: Hello treadway, My name's Harold but you can call me HAM. I just read your question where do I go from here? I myself have just recently joined the forum, so I wasn't able to see all the questioned verses you had previously posted. I'm personally saddened that your bible study and a book have brought you to these conclusions. Of course, you will believe what you will.I pray you don't give up and keep searching and praying for answers. Seek and you will find. It's not just a saying it a promise. As far believing the second Advent is a fraud or mistaken belief well, this is adressed in 2Pet chapter 3.Study this chapter, it does boil down to one this i want to tell you. If Christ hasn't return it's not because he won't it's because "he is patient toward you, not wanting any to perish but for all to come to repentance." (vs 9)Where do you go when you've come to the realization that your church hasn't been teaching you the truth? Seek out the counselor, the Holy spirit, seek out the answers, the Word, seek out the relationship, with God (Jesus). If you find any assurance from my words let me know if you don't then ask me your difficult biblical questions, I'd try my best to answer. Your freindly nieghborhood , HAM |