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NASB | 2 Timothy 4:18 The Lord will rescue me from every evil deed, and will bring me safely to His heavenly kingdom; to Him be the glory forever and ever. Amen. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Timothy 4:18 The Lord will rescue me from every evil assault, and He will bring me safely into His heavenly kingdom; to Him be the glory forever and ever. Amen. |
Subject: once saved always saved? |
Bible Note: Country Girl, Thank you again for taking time out of your busy schedule to reply to my post. I know that you won't have time to reply right away but I thought I would go ahead and respond. In the meantime I would be happy to see Hank or anyone else reply. I'm a little rusty and I think my iron may need sharpening. I would like to say something about this statement you wrote: "With that relationship intact with both our God and our fellow christians, then we can look forward to the benefits of coverage by our God even when we're "caught off guard" and die suddenly. As long as we've establish a regular habit of repenting regularly of the sins of commission and omission, we're good to go." It seems as if you believe at least two conditions are placed upon our salvation. From what I gather, you believe these conditions must be met in order for one to "make it into heaven": 1) We must (currently) be in a right relationship with all Christians we personally know. (By this I mean we cannot harbor any bitterness, resentment, jealousy, etc., towards any other believer) 2) We must have repented of all sins to the best of our ability, making sure all of our sins are "covered by the blood of Christ". I'm wondering what your direct answer to Hank's question might have been when he asked you where you believe a born-again believer that dies with unconfessed sin would end up for eternity (heaven or hell). Hopefully, you'll find time to answer directly at some point. I know that it would take a considerable amount of time since he asked for Scripture references, etc. The other thing I would like to say is that you have pointed out something very important that I believe many times is ignored in the body of Christ. And that is, our love of God and our love of fellow believers is an inseperable thing. Jesus taught that the two greatest commandments are to love God with our whole being (sorry, my paraphrase) and love our neighbor as ourself. He said the second command was like the first. (Matt. 22:37-39) Ephesians 2:11-22 reveals a lot about God's plan for our relationship with other believers. When God saved us He not only established our relationship with Him but with all other believers as well (both a vertical and horizontal restoration). I would like to discuss this very important part of our walk more but have to stop for now. I need to go back and see what's already been written about this on the forum. I do thank you for mentioning this in your post. Question to any who happen to read this: Is my description "born-again believer" redundant? In Him, Karen |