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NASB | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord! [John 14:3; 1 Cor 15:52; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil 1:23; Col 3:4] |
Subject: Order of events at the 2nd Coming? |
Bible Note: Tim Let me say one additional thing here. You said what may be old hat to one may be new to another. Again since most forum participants, I think are church members, wouldn’t it behoove them to seek the answers to these type of questions first in their own church? Where they can be discipled and the teaching can be done precept on precept. So they are in one accord with the teaching of the church. I saw a guy who was in a pre trib church and basically rip it up with mid trib teaching. The Pastor rightly or wrongly had the people assured that God would preserve them from wrath, many had found peace in this, many were comforted by this. Many of the older folks were convinced the Tribulation was right around the corner and they found relief believing they would be spared from that confusion. This guy read a book on mid Trib and being a strong personality let his feelings known. He gave little regard to the damage he was doing, he gave little regard to the faith he was destroying, he gave little regard to the fear he was sowing, he wanted to prove himself right, the teaching of mid trib right and what the Pastor had taught wrong. I know the Pastor, I knew his heart he had preached what he had been taught and believed. I know the many hours he spent weeping over the blessed saints that had their world shaken beneath them. |