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NASB | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord! [John 14:3; 1 Cor 15:52; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil 1:23; Col 3:4] |
Subject: Order of events at the 2nd Coming? |
Bible Note: Nolan 1 Thess. 4:16-17 can't be return of Christ, since Acts 1:11 tells us he will return with faces looking up. In 1 Thess. 4:16-17 the saint meet him and there is no indication of Him actually appearing to earth. Jesus also can't return mid trib since as you stated he will slay the antichrist (confine him to the lake of fire) but not until after the antichrist has defiled the temple and killed many Jews. That would be the last part of the Trib. Most mid tribs believe Jesus will return for them but it will not be Jesus 2nd coming but rather just as the name implies the rapture. Most everyone believe Jesus' second coming will be at the end of the Trib. Rev 19. The two witnesses are ministry to the Jew and nothing else. I doubt many gentile will even be concerned about them, with the exception of those the behold their awesome wrath. Many speculate on who the two witnesses can be. First they have to be two men that are Hebrew, which eliminates everyone before Abraham. Second they have to be men the Jews would listen too, since they are going to tell them they have been wrong all this time. Third they have to be men of power but humbleness since God requires the Glory. Most believe that can only be Moses and Elijah. But Abraham himself, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Elisha, Samuel, and practically any other OT prophet would fit the bill |