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NASB | Ephesians 5:29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 5:29 For no one ever hated his own body, but [instead] he nourishes and protects and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, |
Subject: how can suicide be the same |
Bible Note: Hi Mark, I think we have exhausted the benefit of this thread as we are continuing to revisit the same arguments over and over. But, I will respond to this post. Where I referred to my personal views, opinions, I was specifically talking about this "issue" of suicide. I felt it necessary to refer to opinion because of what I do for a living. My line of work is not well received by a great many christians, as my spiritual beliefs and convictions are not by many a colleague. I always feel it challenging and important to explain to other christians that I do not take the liberal, scientific explanation for all truth which is without absolute, position that most in my field take. Interestingly, I never feel obligated to explain myself to my associates as the truth of God needs no validation from me. Perhapse one sticking point in our discussion, I see now, did have to do with the issue of "body" verses "life". And because suicide was the original topic of this thread, I may have mistakenly assumed that life was the issue at hand. I tried to explain this by asking the question something like this. If one loves his body does he hate his life and if he loves his life does he hate his body. Bows44 appeared to be making this observation in that he referred to Eph. 5:29 specifically to relate to the issue of suicide. From this point on perhapse more than one involved began a play on words, myself included. I can accept that this would have been done unintentionally while trying to make the various points clear. Finally, my references to blasphemy. Blasphemy certainly includes vilifying and insulting God, but it also includes an irreverence toward God and His word. Perhapse I was defensive, but, I felt like I was being accused of being just that. Thanks for the discussion. It is among those that I have had on the forum that gives me encouragement and growth. Jeff |