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NASB | Ephesians 5:29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, |
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Subject: how can suicide be the same |
Bible Note: Hi Mark, No, I don't agree with this argument. This is the argument that Doc offered you. Again, this is the "all or nothing thinking" that requires us to have definitive Yes or no answers to questions that are more complex than yes or no. While there is no such thing as "relativness" regarding truth, there is relativneness regarding circumstances. You may hate your neighbor and want to see him "suffer" and be all sorts of miserable. Therefore, you would want to suffer if you hate yourself? Not a logical argument in my opinion. There is a significant difference between what I might think and feel about myself and what I might want to experience as a result of that thinking. For example. I have learned that I was a sinner deserving judgment and eternal separation from God. I am saved now though I continue to sin from time to time. I know this and I absolutely hate this about myself. but I do not want to punish myself with what I deserve in order to enhance my hatred toward my sin. With that said, let me add. There are people that I work with that do very intentionally cause harm and suffering to themselves and in some cases it is the result of being dissapointed with themselves to the point of believing they need to be punished. Sometimes it is more of an impulsive act done while agitated. These people are very very different from the suicidal patient. finally, you wrote: "If not for self-love, why do I seek better for myself?" As I have said, this is the "all or nothing" way of considering the question. For the unsaved it is most often (in my opinion) the love for self that motivates bettering oneself. To answer your question specifically, that is regarding you yourself, I would hope that the answer is your love for God and not self. Jeff |