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NASB | Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace [God's remarkable compassion and favor drawing you to Christ] that you have been saved [actually delivered from judgment and given eternal life] through faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [not through your own effort], but it is the [undeserved, gracious] gift of God; |
Bible Question:
Greetings Rowdy! There is no butting in on a public forum! :) Allow me to ask you one question my friend. Are we saved or are we hoping to be saved? I believe that salvation can willingly be rejected, but I do not believe that our salvation is 'fragile'. I have been saved. I'm not hoping to be saved one day if I am good enough. Christ paid the price for my sins on the cross and when I responded to the conviction of the Holy Spirit, I was saved. I don't have to worry from day to day whether I have been good enough, obedient enough, or worked hard enough. Nothing that I can do or not do can add to what Christ has already done. This is why the gospel is 'good news'. Yet, as humans, we seem to have this tremendous reluctance to simply trusting God's grace. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
Bible Answer: I see your reference to Eph 2:8 and I agree most emphatically, but what I'm NOT seeing is your scriptures in response to all the many scriptures I've cited in the past on this subject, other posts. Briefly, those would be James 2, branch and vine parable of Jesus in John 15. Yes, indeed it is most definitely only by the Grace of God that any of us make it to Heaven but these scriptures and others clearly depict that we must have a faith that produces fruit or it's dead and useless to both us and our God. By the way, I DO trust in God's Grace. I trust that It's going to cover up for my poor performance in producing the fruit alluded to above. His Grace will continue to cover for us in our sins if we repent continually and put our faith in the fellowship of God as cited in 1 John. Looking for your response with scriptures to these specific points. God bless. --Rowdy |