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NASB | 1 Corinthians 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 12:9 to another [wonder-working] faith [is given] by the same [Holy] Spirit, and to another the [extraordinary] gifts of healings by the one Spirit; |
Subject: gift of healing same as prayer of faith |
Bible Note: Greetings Makarios! 1) You wrote: "No, that is not the crux of the debate." It is for me! ;-) No one disputes that the verses you list mention that historical fact that signs and wonders were a part of the ministry of the apostles and served in some manner to confirm their message (even though not everyone believed even with the miracles). What I dispute is that anything is these verses state or demand that the gifts must be temporary. Not only is that position not spelled out word for word, it isn't spelled out at all in my reading of Scripture. ;-) 2) You contend that there is some major difference between then and now in terms of how healings were accomplished. I disagree. Perhaps we are simply understanding the nature of spiritual gifts differently. 4) Where in Acts 4 does it say that the prayer is only for Peter and John? 5) These are the kinds of points not worthy of this discussion my friend. You were discussing your impressions of the present state of healings and I was countering with my impressions. I never claimed Scripture support for this impression. I simply posed a possibility. I did not state, "Scripture says that healing are not seen today because we do not believe." ;-) Further, I most emphatically did not base my position on the gifts of healing upon experience. I base my position upon Scripture. You claimed that the gifts are not occuring today, I responded that I have seen them personally. My claim about the gifts of healing is based upon 1 Cor. 12-14, where ordinary Christians are told that God distributes these gifts as He wills, and where ordinary Christians are commanded to seek the best gifts. 1 Cor. 12:28 does not state that only apostles can have a gift of healing. Rather, it distinguishes between apostles and those with gifts of healing. Finally, my interpretation of 2 Cor. 12:12 is much the same as yours expect I do not add the thought that only apostles could do signs and wonders. Well, I have to get to bed my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |