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NASB | 1 Corinthians 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 12:9 to another [wonder-working] faith [is given] by the same [Holy] Spirit, and to another the [extraordinary] gifts of healings by the one Spirit; |
Subject: gift of healing same as prayer of faith |
Bible Note: Greetings Tim! I appreciate your response! But I must disagree with your assessment of 2 Cor. 12:12. Only the few people that I have already specified in my former post have had the ability to perform the miracles of healing that we see in Scripture, and nowhere do we see someone who is not prominent in the church, or anyone past the 1st Century A.D. able to perform these miraculous healings. As for Acts 4:30, the believers were actually praying for Peter and John, who were just released from chief priests, to the Lord to "look upon their threats and grant to your servants to continue to speak your word with all boldness, while you stretch out your hand to heal, and signs and wonders are performed through the name of your holy servant Jesus." You are taking Acts 4:30 completely out of context if you believe that the believers in this verse are praying for the gift of healing for themselves to carry out. :-) Mark 16:17 does not add to this argument, because we are already seeing this come to pass with the apostles in the 1st Century A.D. Hebrews 2:4 says that "God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will." Have you ever wondered why the gift of healing was not given to anyone except for the apostles, the seventy, Philip and Steven? :-) Now, Hebrews 2:3-4 may not say that there were "signs of a true apostle", but 2 Corinthians 12:12 surely does! :-) I am still waiting on a response as far as what you think that those signs were, if they were not for healing. It is certainly not a stretch to believe that the gift of healing was a temporary sign, which I believe that I have sufficiently supported through the use of Scripture. It seems that the arguments that you present are much more of a stretch than the ones that I have made, based upon the verses that you have presented, and the complete lack of evidence of this gift existing in the church today. True, I do concede that there is no verse within Scripture that tells us that the gift of healing is 'temporary', but at the same time, there is absolutely NO Scripture evidence whatsoever of anyone doing any miracle of healing outside of the select group of Christ, the apostles, and a few others that were close to that group. As for the gift of healing occurring today, I believe that it does and may happen today. But if it does, it is not enacted as a specific gift that is bestowed on any select individual, but the Holy Spirit is in fact the One who instigates the healing, and not any specific individual. So, in that sense, the gift of healing is exhibited, but only through prayer and through the Holy Spirit. And I challenge you to prove otherwise, my friend! :-) You state: "My point is simply this: I cannot hold to a doctrinal position that is never once stated in Scripture. :-)" Ok, in that case, I presuppose that you are having problems with believing in the Trinity, since that is not once stated in Scripture? I presuppose that you are having problems believing in Arminianism, since that is not once stated in Scripture? I thoroughly believe that my viewpoint is supported firmly through Scripture, and I do not agree with the premise that you have presented, stating that the gift of healing is distributed today. Now, I most certainly can be wrong, and if presented with solid, factual evidence that the church today continues to be bestowed with this gift, then I will be the first to admit that I am wrong. So far, I have not been proven wrong. But I remain unconvinced that I am not wrong in this instance, or with the how and why concerning this gift that is revealed through Scripture. Your brother in Christ, Makarios |