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NASB | 1 Corinthians 12:30 All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they? |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 12:30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? |
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Bible Note: Hi Joe, I don't believe that I said that this means that someone that is "filled" will have to speak in tongues. It does say, though, that signs will accompany those that believe. Certainly, the first sign is a holy life. I know someone that is a "snake handler", yet she is bound in a sin!! They cite this verse as well. I'm with you. We need to read what it says, along with the rest of scripture. The gifts were never meant for what these use it for. God is interested in holiness. Once this base is secure, then the rest can be used properly. To the scripture in Mark, "He who has believed and has been baptized..." Belief is first. What is belief?? "Faith without works (obedience) is dead", "If you love me, obey my commands." In addition to and support of this, lets go to 1 Cor 13. In Chapter 12, Paul establishes the gifts, in 14 he further specifies how we need to act, regulate the gifts for order. Most people feel that chapter 13 is a beautiful distraction in Paul's train of thought, when he teaches us about love. I disagree. It has everything to do with the gifts of the Spirit vs the workings of another spirit. To read chapter 13, I always remind myself that "God is love", then read, "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not God, I become..." and so on. It reminds me that its all God, I'm dead and gone with respect to the gifts. When I come into play and use my will (like playing with snakes for show, which I don't do) to show everyone that I'm filled, well, one already knows that God is gone, and its flesh doing the work. Rom 6:15-18 "... (16)Know ye not that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servant's ye are... (18) being made free from sin ye became servants of righteousness..." By-the-way, I don't buy the "earlier text" thing! The last chapter of Mark fits beautifully with the intention of Christ and the reason He came... Heb 10, esp vs 9 and 10, though the whole chapter needs to be followed to "get it". Jesus came "to do away with the first to establish the second". What was the second?, "To do thy will, oh God". How do we go about that?? Impossible in the flesh, but in His Spirit: NECESSARY. On a human level, because in the Spirit there is no dissimulation, no shadow of turning. Philippians and Ephesians all very clearly show that we can have no effectiveness against sin, let alone work for the kingdom, unless we "Walk in the Spirit" . This is why it was "...expedient that I (Jesus) go". John recounts in John 14-16 that a new relationship, a new contract, a new covenant was about to be brought into play. John 16:5-15, "But now I go my way to him that sent me... Nevertheless I tell you that it is expedient for you that I go away for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you..." We all know that this speaks of the Holy Spirit. But the reason He was coming was to convict of sin, righteousness, and judgment, that is to establish Holiness, and I would contend, to "Believe". Ahhhhh, too much (was that personal tongues)! I have to go. I hope that the reader can piece it together. Rob |