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NASB | 1 Corinthians 12:27 ¶ Now you are Christ's body, and individually members of it. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 12:27 ¶ Now you [collectively] are Christ's body, and individually [you are] members of it [each with his own special purpose and function]. |
Subject: Prerequisite-infallibility? |
Bible Note: Dear charis, I believe that if you can assume that there are apostles today by reading into 2 Cor. 11:13 and Rev. 2:2 to say that there are apostles because they mention "false apostles", then it is you who are 'assuming too much'.. The following is my response to what you have written in your post to 'all the saints' and RCSCROLL.. "Again (and again) I hear the *new* revelation requirement. Where might I find that in Scripture?" John 10:35, Revelation 22:18-19 "Honestly, my friend, you yourself seem to claim some authority when you state that your interpretation is the correct and accepted one :-)" I disagree with this! In no way are we presenting ourselves as an 'authority' over anyone here on the Forum. We are just here to offer some good advice, my friend, and discuss the issues at hand. "To try to differentiate between the 'office' and the ministry is just traditionalist gobbledegoop. (with all due respect)" Ok charis, then just how do you differentiate between an 'apostle' and a 'minister' of the gospel, since the Greek for apostle is 'apostolos' which is translated as "messenger"? "Finally, I ask, are you of the 3-office group, 4-office group, or the no-office group? Personally, I don't place much importance on the 'office' or title. I think that Peter, Paul and the other saints would be appalled at their ministry to Christ and His church being labelled 'office.'" Dear charis, there is no 'groupage' here except those who believe that there are no apostles today in the Biblical sense of the word and those who do believe that this passage 1 Cor. 12:28 applies also for present day when it mentions 'apostles'. In no way does this mean that the same gifts that were distrubuted to the early church are somehow hindered or not being distributed today. Your Brother in Christ, Nolan |