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NASB | Romans 6:12 ¶ Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 6:12 ¶ Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts and passions. |
Subject: Can we live life without sinning? |
Bible Note: Dear Tim: Well now that sounds a lot better. :-) I can pretty much agree with that simplified version. :-) But you go much deeper in your posts. :-( And I don't see where I misunderstood what you or our esteemed man of godly wisdom have been saying. Going over the posts of this thread I don't think I've missed anything. You see the thing that really bothers me Tim, is this slant that, man can do more for himself than what God is doing for us. Frankly, it sounds pious and insincere. I hope this doesn't offend, but that honesty is, how it looks to me. I'd rather give God ALL the credit then say that we can do anything. God dwelling in us is the only reason we are able to do anything at all that is good. And I guess I see that as being missing from what I've read in the posts of this thread. So please don't say I've misunderstood you my friend, because I do understand it, and it troubles me that you teach these things. It surprises me too, Tim, that you would aline with one who has such a worldly view of Scripture given the history of the production of this somewhat tumultuous postings, and tail chasing circular logic, since coming to this forum. And I see too that maybe you have some trouble with the fact that I don't give man any credit; and I guess that is why you feel the need to correct me in my theology? Well, thanks, but no thanks. :-) I'm doing just fine right were I am. Resting in the arms of Jesus. :-) Knowing that, "we are still frail and fallible human beings" that cant be trusted to be perfect, it's nice to know that Jesus can be relied on to impute righteousness to us. All that I am that may seem good, all that I know that may seem good, and anything in me that is good, is from God... You know Tim, I spent a long time looking at Churches from the outside. I can tell you for certain that the Church is under a microscope. If we don't think the world is watching; that is a huge mistake. And the world sees that the Church thinks it's better then them. This too is a very sad state of affairs; we are NOT better then them; we are just blessed. And we need to get off our Spiritual high horse, show a little humility, and gratefulness to God, by giving credit where credit is due. And stop all this nonsense of man being somehow able to do something on his own. Man-centeredness as opposed to God-centeredness. That's one of the very reasons that the world just doesn't believe Christians, because they can see so plainly the hypocrisy that dwells in so many Churches. This is something that, Finney, championed, by the way and it is something that is very wrong with the emerging Church. Very sad indeed-.. :-( Just my two cents. God bless John |