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NASB Romans 2:2 And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things.
AMPLIFIED 2015 Romans 2:2 And we know that the judgment of God falls justly and in accordance with truth on those who practice such things.
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Bible Question (short): Which is first, wrath or Grace?

Question (full): Which is first, wrath or Grace? And consider: why is it, that we are required to know, and believe (Jn:6:29). I mean we are born into the world we have no problem with the fact that the world is, and learning how things are and work in the world, but the Kingdom of Heaven, few if any understand. Jesus witnessed the Father to us (Mt:7:21) that we may know and believe, and what would that accomplish, unless grace is first? Because if wrath was first, who would survive? Noah found Grace in the Lord God’s sight (Gen:6:8:), note that your made to know that, via the scripture. And in scripture it is the first place Grace is mentioned. Also, when the Lord heard the case of Adam and Eve in the Garden (Gen:3), (note nothing was asked of, nor heard from the serpent) was it Grace that was in action there? If wrath was first would they even made it out of the garden? Even before the Spirit of God came into His creation, there was nothing to be perceived until He did come into creation and said let there be light. If His Presence never came into creation, would there be light? And note, there was still darkness, and God separated the two.

Didn’t Jesus (the Light of men)(Jn:1:4) come into the world to deliver use from the wrath of God (Jn:3:36)? And the darkness comprehended it not, hence there is still darkness in the world even though the Light of the world came into the world.


And let us not confuse Judgement of God as wrath, according to the Lord God it is something to live by. (Gen:18:19, Lev:18:4-5)

Is it the lack of knowledge of, and believing in, God’s Grace that would, or could result in wrath?

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 Which is first, wrath or Grace? (?)
  DPMartin
 DPMartin, In scripture, disbelief and...
  Beja
 Beja thanks for the reply How can it...
  DPMartin
 DPMartin, My comment about mercy was ...
  Beja
 Our God is not a "Plan B" God... see p...
  DocTrinsograce
 Doc, I was purposefully trying not to...
  Beja
 Dear Pastor Beja, The problem that ar...
  DocTrinsograce
 Doc, I agree that there is always a d...
  Beja
 Beja If you noticed, theology is a ho...
  DPMartin
 DPMartin, I disagree. In Christ, B...
  Beja
 Hello D P Marin, You stated, "The tr...
  BradK
 BradK Thanks for the reply To put ...
  DPMartin
 Hello DP Martin, I'm not sure where ...
  BradK
 BradK You have to be way incorrect, i...
  DPMartin
 Hello DP, I will respectfully agree t...
  BradK
 Greetings Brad! Well said my friend! ...
  Morant61
 Dear Pastor Beja, Well said, sir. Ach...
  DocTrinsograce
 Bega I can understand that what I pos...
  DPMartin
 DPMartin, The answer is both.  God's...
  Beja
 Hello DP Martin, I think Beja has pro...
  BradK
 DP Martin Are you suggesting that we ha...
  EdB
 EdB Its very simple, God made the man...
  DPMartin




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