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NASB | Romans 2:2 And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 2:2 And we know that the judgment of God falls justly and in accordance with truth on those who practice such things. |
Subject: Which is first, wrath or Grace? |
Bible Note: Beja thanks for the reply How can it be that we don’t need mercy when scripture says this: (KJV) ******************** Mt:5:7: Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Mt:9:13: But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Mt:23:23: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Lk:1:50: And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. Lk:1:54: He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy; Lk:1:72: To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant; Lk:1:78: Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us, *************** Why it is that the “Mercy seat” covers the ark of the covenant, and the law therein, and the Lord God said He would appear (Ex:25:22) and meet with them, meaning Israelites, if Mercy isn’t needed? Theory isn’t Truth, at best it is merely what men imagine something they don’t know to be, and in that, is no revelation that is of the Lord God, is there? And scripture is all about the Living Almighty God and His relationship with His People, which is revelation of the Lord God to His People, not theory. I do believe even in philosophy circles, theory is theory, and knowledge or knowing, is revelation, but don’t hold me to that. You said : “we know that God's wrath comes in response to sin” Sorry its your belief that God's wrath comes in response to sin. If that were true then what is Jesus’ offering on the Cross all about? Granted, Jesus suffered in our place, but wasn’t that act the Mercy of God to have His Son His only begotten Son suffer in our place? And isn’t it so that all manner of “sin” shall be forgiven unto men, (Mt:12:31) How is that is a response of wrath to sin? The Lord God’s response to sin through His Son is Mercy and Forgiveness to the point where the forgiven’s sins are forgotten. Nobody said there isn’t wrath, but most of that has been men to men, not God to men. At least as of yet. It would seem that the wrath would be toward the refusal of the Presence of His Holy Son our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in the world. |