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NASB | John 7:39 But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 7:39 But He was speaking of the [Holy] Spirit, whom those who believed in Him [as Savior] were to receive afterward. The Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified (raised to honor). |
Subject: Filled with His words? |
Bible Note: So that's it? :-) ..... Doc, now to wax serious between chuckles, in your post 150869 you said some things that I truly feel were not only worth saying but needed to be said, and you said them clearly, succinctly, and in a manner that no one, I should think, would -- or should -- find obtrusive. I have seen this passion for and this fascination with punctuation and capitalization carried quite beyond the pale of reason. It has become a consuming fetish which serves no purpose but to confuse and confound, and leads to no end but to heterodoxy. It has lead to such bizarre and terribly unscriptural doctrine as the existence of two separate entities, the Holy Spirit and the holy spirit. Those of us who are grounded in the faith pay little or no attention to these pointless discussions, but I am deeply concerned with the confusion they can engender and the error they can implant in the minds of believers young in the faith, and to other readers of this Forum who may be looking to it for spiritual help and biblically-sound doctrine. There are far more weighty matters to consider on this Forum than whether a pronoun should be changed from lower case to upper case or to discuss ad infinitum whether this or that translator got it right. As you pointed out, no one who is inept in the original languages of Scripture should attempt to redo or undo what scores of scholars have spent countless hours on in an effort to render into English the finest fruits possible of their scholarship. ......... Accordingly, while harboring no ill will toward anyone on this Forum nor wishing to treat anyone unjustly or to be harsh or vindictive, I believe that the time has come to call for a moratorium on these kinds of dead-in posts that have been going on for years and have got the Forum absolutely nowhere. Seasoned believers on the Forum pay no attention to them any longer and usually don't read them, and new believers shouldn't read them because they teach nothing worthwhile and lead to nothing but confusion and impart a great deal of error and misinformation. Anyway, thanks Doc for saying well what clearly needed to be said. I pray that your sagacious counsel to your correspondent will bear good fruit. --Hank |